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The Hogg surname Y-DNA project is well underway with a total of 7 participants at this time (March 2007). A surname DNA project seeks to establish the relationships between various family lines with the same surname (allowing for alternate spellings) by comparisons of the DNA markers in the Y chromosome, which is passed essentially unchanged from father to son generation after generation. The test is painless and easy and does not reveal any information about health issues.
The Hogg DNA project is hosted by Relative Genetics http://www.relativegenetics.com. Access to the project is controlled by a username and password. You can access the project by going to the Relative Genetics web site, clicking on the "login" button at the top of the home page and entering the username "hoggfamily" and the password "hoggdna". That will take you to the project home page.
I encourage more Hogg men to join. If you want to join, you can contact me by clicking on the "email project coordinator" button on the project home page.
The Hogg DNA project consists of 7 members at this time (March 2007):
1. desc. of Richard Hogg b.c.1717 Glouc. Co. VA
2. desc. of James Hogg Sr. of Savannah GA, b.1740
3. desc. of Abraham Hog of N. Paltz NY b.c.1760
4. desc. of Ernest Hoag b.1854 Germany
5. Hogg (Scot DNA Project Ref. No. 1572)
6. desc. of Thomas Harrell, b. bef 1660, Nans. Co. VA
7. Mackey Wayne Otts
It is my intention, for the most part, to identify members of the project, not by their real identity, but by the identity of their earliest proven Hogg ancestor, the progenitor of their line. There are two advantages of doing it this way: first, it allows for the privacy of any member who wishes to remain anonymous; and second, it is a more informative description of the relationships to be found between the various Hogg lines. Any member who chooses to disclose his identity is free to do so, but I respect the wishes of those who might wish to preserve their privacy.
The first two members of the project are (1) me, I am the "desc. of Richard Hogg, b.c.1717 Glouc. Co. VA" and (2) Donald Hogg, who contributes to this forum, he is the "desc. of James Hogg Sr. of Savannah GA, b.1740".
In addition to myself and Donald, I have drafted three additioal Hogg DNA contributors who are posted on the available public and semi-public DNA projects. Two of these are from the SMGF data base, which does not identify the living, but includes a pedigree back at least 4 generations. These are (3) a "desc. of Abraham Hog of New Paltz NY b.c.1750" and (4) a "desc. of Ernest Hoag b.1854 Germany". The third member that I drafted from another source is (5) "Hogg (Scot DNA Project Ref. No. 1572)", who I found in the Scot DNA project, but of whom I have no additional information.
The last two members of the project are individuals with surnames other than Hogg, for which there is reason to suspect that there might be a connection with a Hogg line. one is (6) a "desc. of Thomas Harrell, b. bef 1660, Nans. Co. VA" and (7) Mackey Wayne Otts. The Harrell entry is also from the SMGF data base. I added that entry because my DNA search found a close (94.6%) match between myself and him. Mr Otts requested to join the project because he has seen evidence that he is a close match with an individue with the surname Hogg.
Tutorial on how to use the project web page...
To access the Hogg DNA project connect to the Relative Genetics web site at http://www.relativegenetics.com. Click on the "login" button at the top of the page and login using the project username "hoggfamily" and password "hoggdna". That will take you to the project summary page which has the basic description of the project and lists all of the members. You can contact my by clicking on the email icon next to my name on the "Project Coordinator" line.
The members are listed in an order that I established. The first line should be me. I am described as "desc. of Richard Hogg b.c.1717 Glouc. Co. VA". The second line should be Donald. He is described as "desc. of James Hogg Sr. of Savannah GA b.1740". The next three lines are the three Hoggs that I found in the SMGF database and on the Scot DNA database. The last two lines are the two additional entries that are not Hoggs but for one reason of another might have a connection to a Hogg. The members that have elected to allow direct email communication can be contacted by clicking on the email icon to the right of their name.
To get to the next page that shows the relationships between members of the project, click on "Project Results". This page has a table with one line for each project member. The entries in the table are initially in the same order as on the previous page. In this table, the entry on the top line is a reference and the following lines show the other members sorted by degree of match with the reference for matches greater than 70%. Matches less than 70% are listed in more-or-less random order. The items on each line from left to right are as follows: first is a "compare" button. If you click on the "compare" button on a line below the top line, that line is brought up to the top and the comparisons are recalculated with respect to that line. Next is the member identity. The third item on the line is a "search" button. If you click on the "search" button of any line, it takes you to a page that shows rhe results of a DNA match between that member and the entire Relative Genetics database. The 4th item on each line is the degree of match between that member and the reference member on the top line. The 5th item on each line is that member's haplogroup. All of the 7 members currently in the project are about evenly split between R1b and I1a. If you click on a haplogroup code, it brings up a page with a narrative history of that haplogroup from an anthropology perspective and a map showing the geographic concentration of that haplogroup. The remainder of each line has the full set of DNA results.
What has been learned from this so far?
first, based on just my test alone, I have learned that my haplogroup is R1b. This is certainly not a surprise. R1b is the most common haplogroup found in the British Isles and is regarded by most to be the signature of Celtic ancestory. This alone is not proof of anything, but is consistant with the presumption that my old-world ancestors were Scottish. Of the current 7 members of the project listed above, numbers 1, 4, and 6 have haplogroup R1b. The others, numbers 2, 3, 5, and 7, have haplogroup I1a, which is the most common haplogroup amoung the Scandinavion population and the second most common haplogroup in the British Isles.
Second, of the 5 members with the surname Hogg, there are no close matches between any two of them. Each of the 5 Hogg lines with descendants in the project are seperate unrelated lines.
Third, I have found a close match with a Harrell descendant. This is a supprise. What is the explanation for this? There are 5 obvious possible explanations: (1) perhaps somewhere in my paternal line there was an adoption that I do not know about and I am in fact a Harrell; (2) perhaps somewhere in the Harrell decendant's paternal line there was an adoption and he is in fact a Hogg; (3) perhaps one of my Hogg ancestors lived in a community where the milk man was named Harrell; (4) perhaps one of the Harrell ancestors lived in a community where the milk man was named Hogg; or most likely (5) in an early generation before the use of surnames, two brother (or cousins) went there seperate ways, one choosing the surname Harrell and the other choosing the surname Hogg. The degree of match between the Harrel descendant and me is 35 out of 37 (94.6%). The maximum likelihood estimate of the number of generations back to our most recent common ancestor (MRCA) is 13 generations. This is consistant with a Harrell/Hogg branching prior to the common use of surnames. Of course, this is a statistical analysis and is subject to significant uncertainly: there is a 95% probability that the true MRCA is more than 6 generations and there is a 95% probability that the true MRCA is less than 40 generations (6 to 40 generations is the 95% confidence range). Donald has also found similar close matches with individuals having surnames other than Hogg, probably indicating connections earlier than the common user of surnames.
Where do we go from here?
I have begun to assemble a list of the various Hogg lines in America that have come to my attention. My list, given below, is simply a beginning and is definately not exaustive. It is meant to help focus my efforts to build a picture of Hogg line connectivity using DNA. I would love to have one or two descendants from each line join the project. That would lead to an understanding of which lines are connected by a common ancestor and which are in fact not related. I am sure that there are other lines that I have not included just because I am not as familar with them. I encourage all who are left out to send me a note to inform me of my omissions. Also, I have not yet tried to include the many Hogg lines still in the British Isles and in other New World locations such as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. My list so far in chronological order...
1. Richard Hoag, taylor of Boston MA, b.1617, Wales,
2. John Hogg of New Kent Co. VA. He came to Virginia in 1657 as headright to Capt. Leonard Chamberlain. He settled in New Kent Co. VA and is believed to be the ancestor of the Hogg familys of Gloucester Co. and York Co. VA, including this writer. He might also be the ancestor of the Hogg family of King and Queen Co. VA.
3. William Hogg of Augusta Co. VA, b.1660, Paisley, Scotland, migrated to America in 1682 on the ship Caldonia, d.1745, on the Opequan River in the Shenandoah Valley. William Hogg was grandfather of Capt. Peter Hogg who served with Washington in the French and Indian War.
4. George Hogg Sr. of Beaufort Dist. SC, b.ca.1666, England, married to Ann Wyndham, ca.1734, St. Helena's Parish, Granville Co. SC, d.ca.1769, St. Lukes Parish SC.
5. Lewis Hogg of Frederick Co. VA, 1744, b.ca.1700, married to Mary Margaret Lindsey, d.1747, Frederick Co., Lewis Hogg was the ancestor of James Stephen Hogg, Governor of Texas, 1891-1895.
6. Joseph Hogg of Newberry Co. SC, married to Mary Jones, d.1781-1787.
7. James Hogg Sr. of Savannah GA, b.1740, immigrated from Belfast, Northern Ireland to Savanaha GA in 1770, d.1790-1804, Hancock Co. GA. He is the ancestor of Donald E. Hogg, who has chosen to join the Hogg DNA project.
8. William Hogg of Greene Co. GA, Revolutionary War Soldier, married to Martha Eads, d.1795, Greene Co. GA.
9. Abraham Hog of New Paltz NY, b.ca.1760, married to Jannetje Deyo.
10. Thomas Hogg of York Co. SC, b.3_Jan_1782, York Co. SC, married to Sarah Scott in Charleston SC, d.30_Sep_1842, Columbia SC.
11. John Hogg Sr. of South Carolina, AFN:1XTG-CSB.
12. Ernest Hoag. cigar maker of New York City, b.1854, Germany, immigrated to New York City in 1867, married to Mary Blasy, d. after 1910.
Summary....
In summary, the Hogg DNA project is well underway with 7 members at this time (March 2007). We are hoping that more Hogg descendants will join the project.
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