St Austell area Hore / Hoar family
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HORE in CORNWALL
Kaye Mac 8/08/06
I hope you and others who posted here are still reading! I will try later to contact people directly in the hope their email addresses are still the same -- if so, you should get notice of this message.
Please see my post up top of this forum about the Hore/Hoar/Hoare YDNA project:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/hoare/messages/257.htmlhttp://genforum.genealogy.com/hoare/messages/257.html
We have two participants in the project who are pedigreed Hore/Hoar men from St Austell, Cornwall, tracing their line to John Hore 1552 whom I think you are referring to in your post as your Joseph Hore's grx4 grfather.
My testee's YDNA has also matched closely with those two participants, although the surname Hoar was a surprise to me when the match came back.
(My testee's grfather, I had discovered, used and passed on a fake surname, and I had identified his "real" surname as registered at birth -- but neither of those names was Hoar! And although the "real" surname I had discovered is common as dirt - hundreds of participants in the DNA project - my testee had not a single match with that name. By traditional genealogy, I had only got back, in that line, as far as the marriage of my testee's paternal grandfather's paternal grandparents c1820 in Devon, in which the *wife*, who was from near St Austell in Cornwall, was a Hoare, and that is irrelevant when it comes to YDNA. And the husband's surname was the common as dirt one, so I was stuck. Now I have solved one mystery, the testee's grandfather's identity, only to make a new one.)
It would be very exciting to have project participants from Australia and New Zealand. So far we have descendants in the St Austell Hore/Hoar line who are in Canada and the US, from emigration at varying times later than your Selina's to Australia. But from reading this board, it seems there are many more far-flung cousins.
My own interest is in trying to refine my family's connection with this St Austell crowd. The other project participant in the St Austell line who has tested to the 37-marker level matches my testee on 2 of the 3 rare markers my testee shows (what a windfall they are), and more participants in this line could help to identify when these mutations occurred, depending on who shares which ones of them. This would be academically interesting, but also possibly help me figure out where in this line my own family branched off by taking a different surname. It may well all be in the days before surnames, but we can but try!
Other participants in the projects have roots in Devon and Gloucestershire, and of course there are the people in the US who simply don't know where in England their ancestors came from. Any matches they get will help them trace their roots.
Now the problem we have with you, of course, is that you descend from Selena Hore Bray and the YDNA chain is broken there. But perhaps you have found descendants of her brothers? -- Oh well, here we are right here, from Kaye:
"My grandmother was Louisa Mable Hore (married Charles Dalgliesh).
Louisa was daughter of Silas Hore. Silas was Selina's brother and son of Joseph and Miriam."
That's a bit closer, anyhow. I will reply directly to her and Donald's posts as well (Donald also has a broken YDNA chain since he too descends from a daughter of Joseph and Miriam) and hope they get notification.
Please reply here if you get this message, and then we can exchange contact info!
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