Dear Larry and other Hindleys
I (Kevin) am responding on behalf of my father Arnold whose message is as follows:
Thanks for your email of 24 April some interesting points arise.
By and large records of baptisms, marriages and deaths were not kept until about 1560 in South Lancashire apart form those of mainstream families where prominence was given to the name and life of the heir. Other descendants soon became merged with the ranks of the peasantry and other records have been lost due to the passage of time.
You have of course realised that the same Christian names were used from generation to generation which normally makes it difficult for the historian as there were hundreds of families with the same Christian names.
Information from church records shows that Henry (I have adopted the modern spelling) Hindley was one of the first inhabitants of Leigh in the years before the 1600's and also that Henry Hindley was one of the first inhabitants of Overhulton a hamlet near Deane in the early 17 Century. This ties up nicely with Henry Hindley baptised 1569 and Henry Hindley baptised 1602 to which you refer.
In the early years Leigh was a small village surrounded by hamlets and was situated about 4 miles south east of the then village of Hindley and Hindley Hall. Deane was a village about 5 miles North East of Leigh and near the town of Bolton. Bedford was one of the hamlets that surrounded Leigh.
I have the following theory:
Nowhere in my family tree or in the dozens of others have I seen the name Henry it is relatively rare. Using information on this site you will see that Roberte Hindley married Cecile, daughter of Henry Tildesley, this Roberte being alive in 1302. In the system where Christian names were passed down the generations I think that your family decsends from one of the children of this Roberte and Cecile who naturally wanted to continue the name of Cecile's father. Congratulations!!
Note that my theory is based on the supposition that the name of Henry Tildesley was carried on into your family's name - and of course can neither be proved or disproved. However I do think that it is a good guess.
Some generations later one of these Henrys may then have moved to Leigh and his son (another Henry) married a girl from Deane and went to live there. Of course some time later Charles Hindley then returned to live at Leigh which must have made things easy for your researcher Elizabeth Badley.
I think that you can take it that you were ultimately descended from the Normans who invaded England in 1066 under William the Conqueror. Again congratulations - parlez vous Francais?
Your researcher has clearly done an excellent job. It is rare that a family can be traced so far and you are fortunate.
To refer to the point in you email I do not believe that our family lines have crossed. My distant ancestor Adam Hindley (baptised 1610) probably descended from one of the children of the principle family about 150 years later than yours. However I would suppose that Adam may have known Henry (baptised 1602) as they did not live far away from each other.
I have sketched a calculation that your Henry Hindley baptised 1569 has been the ancestor to some 4,000 Hindley children.
As an aside I should explain that most of the geneological information I have used is from the registers of the relevant parish church. dates of birth were not recorded but dates of baptism were. Particulars of the district (or hamlet) within the parish were often not recorded in the early years that we have discussed.
Thanks for sending the very interesting information that you have provided.
Regards and all the best.
Arnold T Hindley
I must apologise for the delay in posting my father's message. I hope that you find it of interest. Kind regards - Kevin Hindley.
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