Re: Searching for marriage record for Manuel Fernandes Olival , Honolulu, HI 1895
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Searching for marriage record for Manuel Fernandes Olival , Honolulu, HI 1895
Gail Mendoza 11/12/11
Hi Gail,
I am giving you what I have found so far.
1910 OAKLAND WARD 7, ALAMEDA, CA
OLVAL
Manuel F., age 38 (28) (as indexed - image is hard to read, labourer, odd jobs, born Portugal both parents born Portugal, immigrated 1905, 1st marriage, married 15 years
Jermana C., age 28, wife, born Portugal both parents born Portugal, immigrated 1905, 1st marriage, married 15 years, 2 children born 2living
Mary, age 15, daughter, skinner, cotton mill, born Hawaii both parents born Portugal, immigrated 1905
Laura, age 15, daughter, doffer, cotton mill, born Hawaii, both parents born Portugal, immigrated 1905
SILVA
Jessie, age 21, boarder, widow, laundress, laundry, born Hawaii, both parents born Portugal, immigrated 1905
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This may possibly be them in 1920 - not sure as surname spelled Oliver and Laura's mother show born Hawaii which would be wrong, but then census are not always correct.
1920 OAKLAND, ALAMEDA, CA
OLIVER
Fernandez, age 44, widower, laborer, ship yard, born Portugal both parents born Portugal
Laura, daughter, age 24, sales lady, candy shop, born Hawaii father born Portugal, mother born Hawaii
Eva, daughter, age 5, born California father born Portugal mother born Hawaii
JOSE
Mary, niece, age 34, widow, born Hawaii father born Portugal mother born Hawaii
Kathrine, grand niece, age 6, born Hawaii father born Portugal mother born Hawaii
*** this makes it look like the 1920 census was right family
1930 OAKLAND, ALAMEDA, CALIFORNIA
OLIVAL
Manuel F., age 58, delivery, grocery, born Portugal, both parents born Portugal, age at first marriage: 21
Lillian, age 46, wife, born Indiana both parents born Germany, age at first marriage: 17
Eva, age 15,daughter, born California father born Portugal, mother born Indiana
** we know this is wrong as Eva was not daughter of Lillian as in 1920 Manuel/Fernandez was a widower so looks like the enumerator in 1930 just wrote what he thought was right.
Lillian died Dec. 16, 1943 Alameda according to California death index
There is a Manuel Olival born 1872 died 1949 Alameda - I wonder if this could be him as age matches with 1930 census and 1910 census was hard to read. Death shows mother's maiden name as Jesus
California Death Index, 1940-1997 about Manuel Olival
Name: Manuel Olival
Social Security #: 0
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1872
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 4 Jul 1949
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Jesus
Father's Surname: Olival
California Death Index, 1940-1997 about Lillian Olival
Name: Lillian Olival
[Lillian Clausen]
Social Security #: 0
Sex: Female
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1883
Birthplace: Indiana
Death Date: 16 Dec 1943
Death Place: Alameda
Father's Surname: Clausen
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I have not found death for Germana but I just found them in 1900 census
They are indexed as ALIVELL, image looks like Olivell
1900HONOLULU, OAHU, HAWAII TERRITORY
ALIVELL
Manuel, age 27,driver, bornAugust 1872, Portugal both parents born Portugal, married 6 years, immigrated 1894
Jormana, age 20, wife, born march 1880, Portugal both parents born Portugal, immigrated 1894
Mary, age 4, daughter, born Nov. 1895 Hawaii both parents born Portugal
Chatarina, age 3, daughter, born July 1894 Hawaii both parents born Portugal
all fits except forChatarina ?/ and Laura is missing so not totally sure about this family
also if they married 6 years before and also immigrated 6 years before it looks like this couple married in Portugal before coming to US
Are you absolutely sure that Mary and Laura were twins - could Chatarina be Laura ?
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I found a WW1 draft card for Manuel - dated Sept. 12, 1918 - shows wife as Germana so she was still alive at that time but not in 1920 so died within those two years.
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Manuel Fernandes Olival
Name: Manuel Fernandes Olival
City: Oakland
County: Alameda
State: California
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1873
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1531215
Passenger lists for those entering Hawaii start from 1900 on ancestry.com so I do not have access to earlier years.
Carolyn L