Re: NILES HELMS/LUCY HELMS
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Re: NILES HELMS/LUCY HELMS
Ruth Gordon 8/28/02
I'd love to know what information you might be able to share about the Helms family.(It's also spelled Helmes apparently.)I'm trying to find out who Amanda Helmes was and what happened to her. She was born c 1837 in New York. In the 1850 census she lived in the home of my G-G grandparents, Deborah (Piper) and Silas Angell, in Mooers (Clinton County) NY.She might have been a mother's helper, as Deborah apparently had a difficult time with her pregnancies, and by 1850 she would have had three or four small children running around.But where was Amanda's immediate family?Was she related to Niles (born in late 1700s), or his sons Noah and Powell?Or, a bit of a long shot, was she Deborah's child from an earlier marriage or relationship to a Helms man?I'm pretty sure Deborah and Silas weren't married until after 1840.Given that Amanda was born before 1850, and the inconsistent recording of births and marriages in NY state at that time,I don't know if I'll find any records that list her by name.So what I hope to learn is who were Amanda's parents, where was she born, and what became of her after the 1850 census?(She would have been 23 in 1860, plenty old enough to be married and out of the Angell home.)
I am related through the Angells and Wheelers to the Helms family (Niles, b late 1700s), and in 1860 Polly Wheeler (I think aunt to Silas Angell) was living in their home in Ottawa County, MI.It turns out that a lot of Angells lived in VT and upstate NY and a lot went on to Michigan between 1840s-1860s.(Most coincidentally, I attended Angell School in Ann Arbor, MI as a child, never knowing that this was "family"!)Deborah Piper Angell was born in Massachusetts but left the area in the 1930s, and apparently taught in NY state before marrying.
Any clues?Thanks for whatever you can share.