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Jeremy I may be a relatively close cousin..but need to fill in gaps. My gt grandmother was a Havard and the name filtered down as a middle name of all subsequent males in the family. I have gone back to David Havard (b1812) and possibly his father David Havard (b1792) - a guess at this point - both born Llangeler. Is this latter David a brother or cousin of Thomas H. (b1782) of Llangeler who you list and who I found also...hope you can help.
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