Re: Andrew 'Andy' Hatfield
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Andrew 'Andy' Hatfield
Steven Hoke 2/15/05
John Hatfield
He doesn't quite fit anywhere.
In the first place, he could read and write, unlike George and gang. In the second place, he was always being elected to some county office or judgship or tax collectorship (George and gang often appeared in court, too, but on the far side of the bench facing the judge). He's a lot more wealthy than they are . . . horses, slaves, land . . .
A case can be made that John Hatfield who left records in Russell and Lee Cos., VA, in the late 1700's is the same one who migrated on to Campbell County, TN, and lived there on the property of his son Andrew.
John appears to migrate on again to the Sequatchie River Valley to secure land around 1805-1809.
There are 2 John Hatfield's that appear in the 1809-1810 Census in Huntsville/Madison AL.Then 2 John Hatfield's show up as land owners in Marion Co. in 1824. Only one shows up in Marion Co. in the 1836 Tax list, living in disctrict 9 at the southern end of the valley, while both show up a short distance in Jackson Co. AL in 1830.
CENSUS: 1830; Jackson Co., AL; census index
John HATFIELD 129, W. Of 4th Range
James HATFIELD 131, W. Of 4th Range
John HATFIELD 137, W. Of 4th Range
CENSUS: 1830; AL; Jackson County; (adjacent to Marion Co., TN) M-19, r1
Hatfield, John p.129 W. of 4T 0010000001/000000001(Old John here is pretty old)
Hatfield, James p.131 W. of 4T 1202001/0001 b.1780-1790
Hatfield, John p.137 W. of 4T 00000001/-0-
These 2 are the same approximate age of the John Hatfield's that appear in Russel and Lee Co Va then briefly in Knox Co. KY. They are found together everywhere they go and owned property close together places. Probably father and son.
Why does this make such a great case to be the same fellow? It's the wife, Rebecca. John's deeds up in Lee Co., VA, (last one in 1801) specify a wife Rebecca. The tax lists show a younger Andrew Hatfield popping up next to him there in Lee Co. After 1801, this group is no longer in Lee Co., VA, but a young Andrew Hatfield becomes a figure of some importance in Campbell Co., TN. One of Andrew's deeds in Campbell Co. says this:
Deed Book A, pages 73-74 21 Dec 1808 Robert Burton to Andrew Hatfield. 300 acres where he, his father, Jonathan Basham and Harris Standley now lives to be laid off from the letter O half way across the Lott O thence along the dividing line...middle of Lott O until a line to be run from said Dividing line to the line C.C. will make the quantity 300 acres...sRo Burton. Wit. Wm Allin, John Hatfield & William Paulley. Reg. 8 (sic) Dec 1808. 21 Dec 1808. Power of Attorney. Robert Burton to his son, Hutchins Burton...as attorney in fact for the purpose of make a deed or deeds to the within tract of land...Signed R. Burton. Wit. William Allen, Joel Parrot & John Hatfield. Proven Dec Term 1808. Reg 8 (sic 1808)
Andrew Hatfield lives on property in Campbell County with his unnamed father and some other people (note Jonathan Basham, who came here from Lee Co., VA). And a John Hatfield witnesses this same document.
We know that Joseph Hatfield's land was in far southwestern Campbell County (Anderson Co. when he had it surveyed, but Scott Co. by 1850), where is this property? It is twenty miles away in far northeastern Campbell County almost at the Claiborne County line. This land was part of Claiborne County prior to the formation of Campbell County, not Anderson Co. See also:
TN WPA RECORDS, Roll 7; Campbell Co, item 5; Minutes of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions 1813-1817---p.2 15 Mar 1813 deed of Andrew Hatfield to John Hatfield for 150 ac. John Hatfield leaves a few other records in Campbell County (jury lists, more deed witnessing, etc.), but in 1824 is listed as owning land down in Marion Co., TN along with another John Hatfield. It's the same fellow, because he is accompanied by several entertaining characters from Campbell County: David Cornett, Jonathan Hatfield, John Basham, Jeremiah Holloway)
Sideline on Jeremiah Holloway: TN WPA RECORDS, Roll 7; Campbell Co, item 5; Minutes of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions 1813-1817 (Andrew's wife Martha is found living with the Bashams in Marion Co later on)
p.62, 7 Dec 1813 Jeremiah Holloway discharged from further payment for maintainance of a bastard child begotten on Ruth Stover-he is now appointed guardian of same until it reaches age 8, providing food & clothing, teaching it to speak in 2 syllable words--puts up bond with Andrew Hatfield & Phillip Brooks, his securities,$300
Down in the Sequatachie Valley, deeds and court records of John and Jonathan Hatfield continue to be witnessed by these same Campbell County buddies. But, wait wife Rebecca resurfaces on the 1850 census of Marion Co, TN. She is age 97, in the household of Comfort Cornett (widow of David . I would superficially assume that Comfort is a daughter to John and Rebecca. Otherwise, there's no reason for her to be there since by that time both Andrew and Jonathan Hatfield, sons to John and Rebecca, live there.
Who are the probable children to John and Rebecca:
Andrew b.1776
James b.abt 1777
Comfort b. abt 1785
Jonathan b.1790-1800
Is this John the one who was in Botetourt Co. in 1770 and 1771. He was usually in the same general area as George Hatfield and his various potential children but they never interact on documents. Never once do they cross-witness a document; never do they intermarry.John is more literate, upstanding, and leaves better records. Is this George's brother?
Here's more confusion. Campbell County had another Hatfield who makes no sense, Jeremiah. Jeremiah was born in 1776 somewhere in North Carolina according to his 1850 census. He lived in that northern end of Campbell County somewhat close to the John group, but migrated on to Ray Co., Missouri, in 1836 . . . in party put together by the Stanley family.
John Hatfield lived on son Andrew's property with a Harris Stanley.
It would appear that the tree goes like this
John b-1755 M.Rebecca BOTTOM b-1753
Jeremiah b-1803
James b.1783 M. 1.Annie RICE 2.Ollie HARVEY
Jonathan b-1786 M. 1812 Jacksboro TN to
Jincy Jane GULLEY b-1783.
Comfort b-1785 M. David CORNETT
Andrew W. b- 1776 M. Pricy TURNER
Hiram (male) b. 23 Oct 1800, VA
Zella (female) b. 18 Feb 1803 )
Esquire (male) b. 27 Mar 1805 )
Francis(male) b. 14 Mar 1807
O’Bidy (female) b. 17 Mar 1810
Rebecca (female) b. 10 Jan 1812
Zamy (female) b. 10 Mar 1814
John (male) b. 13 April 1816, TN
Jerry H. (male) b. 10 June 1819
James Wiley(male) b.10 June 1819
Henry (male) b. 31 May1822, TN
Pheribe (female) b. 4 May 1825
William Henry (male) b. 4 Mar
1827 Campbell Co
Now further consider that Hiram son of Andrew was married to Martha (Toms) now take a look at Old George's will notice the witnesses names
Be it know unto all men by these presents that I George Hatfield being of Sound and disposing mind and Memory do make and ordain this my Last Will and Testament that as touching or relating to such worldly good as hath pleased
the Lord to bless me with, firstly, my Will is that all my just debts be will and truly paid, Secondly my will is that my Brother William Hatfield have five shillings sterling money out of my estate, thirdly, I give unto my five remaining brothers, viz, Richard, John, David, Jessee, and Benjamin Hatfield, the sum of five shillings sterling money of Great Britain to each of them and their heirs forever, fourthly I give unto my two loving friends, Martha Toms and Foster Toms heir all the remaining part of my Estate where
ever to be found and Lastly I constitue denominal and appoint my loveing friends Foster Toms Senior Executors to this my Last Will and Testament, disannulling and Revoking all other will or will hire to fore before me made in Witness here of I have here unto Let my Hand and affixed my seal this 10th day of February 1774
Witnessed by Francis Newby, Jesse Toms AF, Martha Newby
George Hatfield (Seal)
Perquimans County, January Court Lord His Majesty
This Certifies that within will was proved by the {?} of George Toms at same time appeared and other Toms and was Qualified as Exec {?} to {?}
Test Miles Harvey County Court Clerk
George Goff Hatfield b-1715
Sons
I.Joseph b-1739 M. 1.Elizabeth VANCE 2. Rachael SMITH
II.Jeremiah b-1750 M. Fannie HOLLAND
III.George Goff Jr b-1752 M. 1 indian woman 2; Sarah Ann
McKinney Musick
IV.John b-1755 M.Rebecca BOTTOM b-1753
I.John b-1775
II.Jeremiah b-1803
III.James b.1783 M. 1.Annie RICE 2.Ollie HARVEY
IV. Jonathan b-1786 M. 1812 Jacksboro TN to Jane
GULLEY b-1783.
V. Comfort b-1785 M. David CORNETT
VI. Andrew W. b- 1776 M. Pricy TURNER
V.William b-1740 M. HATFIELD
I believe based on documentation that John I and son John II migrated to Southern Tennessee and N. Alabama area. John I being father to Andrew W. Hatfield, while Joseph was Andrew's uncle.
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