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Re: Peter Hertzog and his family
Posted by: John Hartsock (ID *****0382) Date: February 28, 2006 at 05:46:34
In Reply to: Re: Peter Hertzog and his family by Coleen Perdue of 345

Hi Coleen,

Peter, Anna(s) and their offsrping may have been pietists even when they lived in New Jersey (and then again maybe not). I have read somewhere and will have to look it up again, that Neuwied (where Peter was supposedly born) was a hotbed of religious activity in the 1600s and 1700s, with followers of Menno and others congregating to practice their faiths. The family's affiliations in the colonies seem to show that their beliefs were not very strong or that they were attending churches that were not of their original faith, since they had children baptised in the Reformed Church in New Jersey, seemed to have affiliations with the Lutheran Church in Maryland, maybe joined the Evangelical Lutheran movement in Maryland, and then became part of the Anabaptists. The lack of active churches may have lent to their attendance at whatever church was available, as well as the need to tithe and attend by law in certain areas in order to have voting and citizenship rights in those areas. Of course, other factors could also have been reasons for the perceived lack of consistency in church affiliation.
I think that Mary Mae and others (including myself) have made assumnptions that may or may not be true, but these assumptions were made according to the ages of both the children and parents as well as the location of both at the time of birth, death, etc. In some cases the parents are stated in the birth and it is again assumed that since the parent was George, that he is the same George who is the son of the grandparent.
I have Wilhelm, Johannes and Engelbert as the sons of Peter and Anna, based on information from Mary Mae and also on the location of their baptisms and dates of birth.
The one Daniel is probably the son of Peter, Jr., who was born in 1759. The other does not seem to have a place. I thought once that he may be the son of Conrad, but then found out that he was probably (always probablies) born around 1778 in Hagerstown.
Numbers 3 and 4 are also a mystery to me, because of the lack of information. Inferences can be made, but...
I, too, have many questions on the validity of information concerning Nicholas, Hans Jurg, and Engelbert, as well as other Herzogs at that time. I will try to take time later to state my viewpoint on these and other issues.
Conrad is a puzzle. He lived close to the other Herzogs in Maryland and migrated to Pennsylvania, where he didn't live that far (in those days, though, it was) from other members of the Herzog clam. I have often wondered if Peter may have had children from what could be his first wife, Anna and that Conrad was his grandson. Another left field assumption, but there are others (like George and his wife Eva) in Frederick County, who can't be connected.
Information concerning my great-great grandfather, George, and his brothers and sisters is also very much suspect. Supposedly their father, John, was a son of Nicholas, but that information is based on one census record, am indenture records for two sons of John, and birthdates for George and his brother, William, that are in Mary Mae's records, but I have not been able to confirm.
Another Herzog that I have questions on is Philip, who lived in Pennsylvania and then migrated to South Carolina and started a large clan there. Does he fit or is he another family altogether?
Many questions and few answers.


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