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JOHN, WILLIAM & WILLIAM HANDLEY of ENGLAND
Posted by: Anne Reeves (ID *****8134) Date: April 06, 2008 at 05:14:12
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Hi. Can someone help? My Handley ancestors refuse to reveal their origins. William the son was born in 1838 in Manchester to Martha Mellor or Miller (Mellor on her son's birth certificate, Miller on her wedding certificate of two years later) and William Handley. William the father was a Butcher. When he and Martha married they gave their fathers' occupations as Farmer (could be an exaggeration) and their names as John Handley and Samuel Miller. One of the witnesses was Ann Handley - either William's mother or a sister.

Because the 1841 census only asked whether or not the counted person was born in the county, there is no information as to their origins beyond "NO" they were not born in Lancashire. I cannot find them on subsequent censuses - no matter how I spell Handley. On William the son's marriage to Mary Lockett in 1862, his father's occupation is recorded as Butcher and there is no hint that the father was dead at the time. It is possible that the father was dead and that the son did not think to relate this item of information or did not know. Perhaps Martha and William emigrated?

Martha seems to have come from Cheshire - William the son certainly spent at least 10 years in the home of Elizabeth Miller in Runcorn (Elizabeth herself was from Halton, a small township or village not far from Runcorn). The censuses of 1851 and 1861 appear to record Elizabeth as William's aunt, but I suspect that the relationship recorded was not to Elizabeth but to David Widders/Withers, his uncle (also present in the household on both censuses). I further suspect that Elizabeth was in fact William's grandmother. The IGI has a Martha daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth Miller christened in 1815 atHalton, along with other possible members of the family who were present in Elizabeth's household in 1851.

So it is likely, though not certain, that John Handley also was from or lived in Cheshire and that his son William was born there. But I cannot find out anything to direct me at all in the records I have available to me. Do any of these details sound familiar to anyone out there????
Thanks for reading.
Anne.


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