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Here's something I posted on the Ashby Forum: John W. Ashby/Mourning Guthrie Marriage - Halifax Co., VA. As a Guthrie researcher, I have been looking into this marriage from Halifax County, Virginia in 1802. I haven't looked at the Stokes County, North Carolina censuses but some that have suggest that Mourning Guthrie Ashby was born ca. 1781. If that's the case, by the elimination process, she would have to be the daughter of Travis Guthrie who first settled in Halifax County, Virginia, ca. 1768; having arrived there from Cumberland County, Virginia. Travis was a resident of the northern district of Halifax County his entire life. He died there in 1818. Ashby researchers suggest John W. Ashby was born ca. 1780 in Halifax County, Virginia and that's entirely possible. In the 1789 Personal Property Tax List for Halifax County can be found only one Ashby and that is Joseph Ashby. He was enumerated on April 4, 1789 as a white male over 21 years of age and on the "A" list which was the enumeration of the northern district of the county. Travis Guthrie was enumerated on July 7, 1789 as a white male over 21 years of age and also on the "A" list which was the enumeration of the northern district. As the 1790 Virginia census was destroyed by the British in the War of 1812, the personal property tax lists can serve as a census in the absence of a formal census. The 1789 personal property tax list was used by Binns Genealogy to suffice for the missing 1790 Census. Binns listed this Joseph Ashby as JOSEPH ASHLEY in their index but a look at the actual handwritten record certainly looks to be JOSEPH ASHBEY, and it looks to be the only derivative of the Ashby name recorded in Halifax County, Virginia on these records. The 1800 Census was also destroyed by the British and Binns used the 1798 Personal Property Tax Lists to suffice for that missing census. On May 25, 1798, Joseph Ashbey was enumerated in the northern district of Halifax County, Virginia with 1 white male over 16 years of age/0 blacks over 16 years of age/0 blacks between 12 and 16 years of age/3 horses. Enumerated on April 11, 1798 was John Ashbey in the northern district of Halifax County, Virginia as 1 white male over 16 years of age/0 blacks over 16 years of age/0 blacks between 12 and 16 years of age/0 horses. He looks to be recently out on his own as an adult and it would be a strong guess that he was the son of previously mentioned Joseph Ashbey. Travis Guthrie, who I believe to be the father of Mourning Guthrie, was enumerated on April 9, 1798 (only two days earlier than John) so I believe that puts John in close geographical proximity to Mourning's household at the time (four years before they married). Joseph Ashby and Travis Guthrie would certainly have been contemporaries and it would be logical that their children might marry. With the scant evidence available, it looks to me that John W. Ashby was the son of Joseph Ashby and that Mourning Guthrie was the daughter of Travis Guthrie. Notify Administrator about this message?
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