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My name is Charles Groen. I was born in Oak Park, Illinois in 1960. My father is Fred Groen. He was born in Oak Park, Illinois in 1915. He married Jean Gardner who was from Portland. His father was also named Fred Groen. He was born around 1890. Both he and his father were coppersmiths. His father was from Germany. He moved to Cincinnati, then Milwaukee then Chicago.
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