Re: family crest?
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Re: family crest?
Kenneth Grigg 2/20/11
Hi Ken
Glad you agree with me that the previous message is just so much rubbish.
Arms/crests are granted to an individual and can only be used by that person and his their descendants.Thus there may be many different arms/crests in existence granted to various families and these can only be rightfully claimed by those whose descend is proved from that first grantee.
I have a letter from the Windsor Herald written in 1987 detailing what the College of Arms has on GRIGG armigerous families.
The earliest pedigree recorded for GRIGG is in the Visitation of Middlesex 1634 to a Michael Grigg of Hadley who was High Sheriff of Bedfordshire.The arms were not accepted but in the Suffolk Visitation of 1664 a descendant of this family had the arms proved.They had been used since at least 1623 by Michael Grigg's father, also Michael.
Argent three lions passant, a border Azure.
The Herald listed three other GRIGG/S families with arms.
1889: Joseph Griggs of Loughborough, Leicester.
1951: Sir Edward Grigg, Baron Altricham.
1984: Norman Grigg of Halesowen, West Midlands.
Michael Grigg of Hadley is descended from a family of Exeter back to 1550s.
Don't know anything about Joseph Griggs
Sir Edward Grigg, was descended from a Grigg family in Cornwall back to about 1660s
Norman Grigg of Halesowen.I have some details of this family.
"Suffolk Manorial Families" by J J Muskett, 1909, records the arms for the family of Michael Grigg as above but also includes the following note:"Davy, in his "Arms of Suffolk Families" (Add. MS. 19, 159), adds a crest - Out of a ducal coronet, a dexter hand holding up a swan's head, all proper".
If Muskett is correct then the crest which you have is the crest related to this family.To be valid you would need to prove your connection to this family.I have that family from 1550s to 1730s when the male line seems to disappear from the records.
Specifically on your post.
I don't know anything about John de Griedeke or his descendant Francis Grigg, but there was a Francis Grigg, religious clerk from Pembroke College of Cumberland who was active around the 1660s.
I have a Isle of Brewers Grigg family back to about 1790s - is this your family?I would certainly like to compare information maybe go back a bit further.
Regards
Terry Grigg
Melbourne, Australia
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Re: family crest?
Kenneth Grigg 2/21/11