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Re: Who was Greenberry?
Posted by: Fredric Z. Saunders Date: August 29, 2001 at 13:04:49
In Reply to: Re: Who was Greenberry? by Steve Greenberry of 90

Hi Steve,

Thank you for your information. Using the identifying numbers on my website, do I understand you right that you are saying your line is:
2. Thomas GREENBERRY b. ca. 1560 had son:
6. John bap. 1607 (your date, I show 1606 from the microfilm of the records) at Corby; m. Elizabeth; had 9 children at Aslackby including:
12. John bap. 1649 Aslackby; m. Jane; had 9 children at Irnham

If I am reading/understanding what you are saying incorrectly, please set me straight.

If this is what you are saying, can I ask your sources for this? If your line is from John and Jane with children baptized at Irnham (I show 10) then I show his father as:
7. Nicholas baptized 1607 (1608 modern calendar) and grandfather as Thomas.

The reason I have the makeup listed this way is that 5. Cuthbert had two children, baptized at South Witham including a John in 1612. Cuthbert moved to Aslackby where he wrote his will in 1643, probated in 1650, naming a son John who was his executor. It seemed logical that this son John named in Cuthbert's will was the same John who had the nine children baptized at Aslackby, the same location his father wrote his will.

As for the John and wife Jane who had 10 children baptized at Irnham, it seemed logical that he was the son of 7. Nicholas who in his 1673 will written at Irnham named a son John who was his executor. From Nicholas' marriage date, the recorded births of other children, and for when there were no births recorded in the parish register, I estimated Nicholas' son John as born ca. 1645. Again, it seemed logical that the John (and wife Jane) with children baptized at Irnham was the same as the John, son of Nicholas of the same location. The parish records and his 1723 will shows this John actually lived at Hawthorp, as did 7. Nicholas from his will. Both were also butchers by occupation. Seems logical that John (who married Jane) of Irnham was Nicholas' son.

What is your source that John (with wife Jane) of Irnham was actually the son of John of Aslackby and born in 1649? One reason I would question your listing if I understand it correctly is that although the Aslackby records shows that John and Elizabeth had a son John baptized 19 Mar. 1649 (1650 modern calendar) as you list, this same son John was buried there on 11 July 1656. They also do not show John and Elizabeth having a later son named John.

Another reason I have listed as I do, is that the Irnham register shows that a John had a son John baptized there in 1627. The elder John would seem to be too young to be the son of Cuthbert, who was baptized in 1612, having children at age 14 (not quite 15). The only other John that I know this could be is what I have as 6. John who was baptized in 1606. It would also seem logical that he was at Irnham with his brother 7. Nicholas. If John with a child born in 1627 at Irnham is not John, son of Thomas, then who do you show this John is?

I hope we can straighten this out, as I want my information to be as accurate as possible.

Rick Saunders
http://pweb.netcom.com/~fzsaund/greenberrycuth.html


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