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Re: John and Mary Ellen (Jones) Goulding
Posted by: Amy Armish (ID *****8143) Date: July 09, 2009 at 15:57:16
In Reply to: John and Mary Ellen (Jones) Goulding by Barbara Richardson of 373

I am also trying to research potential connections with John William Goulding and Mary Ellen Jones. More specifically, I tend to think that there are more siblings than what you have listed in your post, but I'm just not sure. This is a very difficult family to research, and I might believe that the names changed around a bit on US census records- Golden and Goulding.

I am trying to ascertain if John William and Mary Goulding are at least the parents of a Catherine Goulding. My husband's great-great grandmother is Catherine "Kate" Goulding who married Peter Radford (both from England). I am thinking that John William and Mary Goulding are distinct possibilities as parents based on dates and the fact that Catherine and Peter resided most of their lives in Westmoreland County, but just can't be sure. Do you have much information on them? I'll share what I have found below, which is the start of where I'm building potential connections...based on the details, I think John Willam and Mary married in 1868, he immigrated around 1870 or so, and I think Mary came a lot later, around 1880, soon after the birth of a Martha, the fifth living daughter. Thereafter, more kids born in PA.

SHIP MANIFEST:
Name:       Mary Goulding
Arrival Date:       27 Sep 1880
Estimated Birth Year:       abt 1847
Age:       33
Gender:       Female
Port of Departure:       Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination:       United States of America
Place of Origin:       England
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality:       English
Ship Name:       Germanic
Search Ship Database:       View the Germanic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival:       New York
Arriving with:
Kate, born abt 1872 (Catherine Goulding?)
Maggie, born abt 1874 (Margaret Goulding?)
Christopher, born abt 1876
Mary Ellen, born abt 1879
Martha Ann, born abt 1879

FROM THE U.S. 1900 CENSUS:
Name:       John Golden
Home in 1900:       Strohms, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Age:       52
Birth Date:       Dec 1847
Birthplace:       England
Gender:       Male
Immigration Year:       1870
Relationship to Head of House:       Head
Father's Birthplace:       England
Mother's Birthplace:       England
Spouse's Name:       Mary
Marriage Year:       1868
Marital Status:       Married
Years Married:       32
Residence :       East Huntington Townshi,P Strohms District, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Household Members:       
Name        Age
John Golden        52 (John William Goulding?)
Mary Golden        53 (Mary Ellen Jones?)
Martha Golden       20
Sarah Golden        17
Lizzie Golden       14
Geo W Golden       12
(P.S. This census is also interesting because it says that Mary Golden had 13 children, 8 of which are living at this year, which I think are Catherine/Kate b:abt 1872, Margaret/Maggie b:abt 1874, Christopher b:abt 1876, Mary Ellen b:abt1879, Martha Ann b:abt 1880, Sarah b:abt 1882, Elizabeth/Lizzie b:abt 1885, George W b:abt 1887.

FROM THE U.S. 1910 CENSUS:
Name:       John Golden
Age in 1910:       62
Estimated Birth Year:       abt 1848
Birthplace:       England
Relation to Head of House:       Father-in-law
Father's Birth Place:       England
Mother's Birth Place:       England
Spouse's Name:       Mary
Home in 1910:       East Huntingdon, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Marital Status:       Married
Race:       White
Gender:       Male
Year of Immigration:       1868
Neighbors:       View others on page
Household Members:       
Name        Age
William M Craig        28
Elizabeth Craig        24 (Elizabeth "Lizzie" Golden/Goulding?)
Kenneth E Craig        6
Curtis B Craig        5
Jr William M Craig        3
Leuellyan Craig        14
John Golden        62 (John William Goulding)
Mary Golden        63

FROM THE U.S. 1920 CENSUS:
Name:       Mary Gouldig (Mary Ellen Jones Goulding?)
Home in 1920:       East Huntingdon, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
Age:       73 years
Estimated Birth Year:       abt 1847
Birthplace:       England
Relation to Head of House:       Mother-in-law
Father's Birth Place:       England
Mother's Birth Place:       England
Marital Status:       Widow
Household Members:       
Name        Age
William M Craig       38
Elisabeth Craig       35
Kenneth Craig       17
Curles Craig        15
William J Craig       13
Lewellyn Craig       11
Gilbert Craig        9
Harry Craig        6
Anna Craig        1
Mary Gouldig        73

Who knows, this seems like a long shot, but things started to seem to line up the more I dug into the Catherine Goulding connection with John WIlliam and Mary.


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