Thanks for replying so quickly. Your information is useful and interesting. I take it that they were still in Albany in 1870 when the census was taken. Ellen Flahive had kin in Albany (from her mother's family) and so that is probably where she and John Gunnoude met. My mother's sister used to live in Albany so her Aunt from Council Bluffs would visit from C. B. and they would go to the home of a relative of Ellen Flahive Gunnoude Bick to visit. My aunt told me about the Gunnoudes and that that marriage was sort of a deep secret. I thought at first that there might not have been a marriage, but records show that John was married to Ellen Flahive so Michael Gunnoude must have been legit. I have seen John's grave in C. B. and somewhere have a C. B. Nonpareil clipping about his death.
Did you know about the Gunnoude piece in the county history? Pottawattamie Co.
Can't find Michael in the Soc. Sec. death benefits from Seattle (Ancestry.com).
I will check again the Albany 1870 census to see if I can find John and Ellen in 1870. She may have been quite young then.
I'm sure that you are correct that John was Patrick's brother rather than son. The ages are about right for being a brother. Interesting that the family does not mention much about him coming over from Ireland also with his father and brother.
George Bick was from Glouchester England and persuaded Ellen Flahive Gunnoude to change to Episcopal Church. Quite a feat for an Englishman to change a strong Catholic to his faith. Some of my relatives still go to the Episcopal church because of all that.
Let's keep in touch. If I can find Ellen in 1870 census, I might have a better idea of her age. Ages for Flahives and Bicks keep changing in the censuses which is rather disconcerting.
Have been to Kerry Co. searching. Most Flahives in Ireland are from that county. May have been from a place called Annascaul on the Dingle Peninsula. Beautiful setting.
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