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If you sent me your email I will sent a copy. Although your ancestors commented on when the crest was first "authorized" used they are likely in error; the graveyards in Scotland and Ireland for the Gilmour/Gilmer family have it on the headstones prior to the date mentioned by you family ancestors. I also have graveyard photos. Gilmer Mac Giollmir Nil penna sed usus. Not the pen but its use. Gilmour - Nil penna sed usus. Not the pen but its use Notify Administrator about this message?
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