Re: SENATE J. GUILDER, TWIGGS CO, GA
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In reply to:
Re: SENATE J. GUILDER, TWIGGS CO, GA
Robert Shepard 6/27/04
There seems to have been some confusion between two Senate J. GILDER’s, who were of approximately the same age:
1850 Chambers Co., AL
page 282
fam. #249
Frances GILDER49GA $3,000 real estate
Rebecca 26GA
Sinnet J? 23GA
James 20GA
Jacob H. 18GA
Reuben F. 13GA
1850 Pulaski Co., GA
page 244, fam. #244
Senate GUILDER 21GA
Cassa A. 19? GA
Mary E. 01GA
It seems quite likely that the S. J. GILDER in Chambers Co., AL was a son of “Sinnot” GILDER who died testate there in 1838, naming in his will his (second) wife Frances and son “Sinnot J.,” who was not then of age.I find him in later censuses in Coosa and Lee Co., AL:
1860 Coosa Co., AL
page 279
fam. #402
Frances GILDER58GA $1,200 R.E. / $15,000 P.E.
S. J. 32GA / $2,000 P.E.
1870 Lee Co., AL
page 242(Opelika)
fam. #207
S. J. GUILDER43GA brick manufacturing/ $100 P.E.
J. O. 42GA(f)
M. 07GA(f)
W. C. GRADY22TN(m)brick manuf.
L. P. JEPSON 29GA(m)brick manuf.
D. GUILDER 14AL(m) mulatto
C. GUILDER 10AL(m) mulatto
The Pulaski Co., GA Senate J. GILDER (slightly younger than the other), is the one who married “Cassa” BRIDGER, and later lived in Dougherty Co., GA:
1860 Dougherty Co., GA
page 573
fam. #314
S. J. GILDER 31Twiggs Co., GA overseer
C. A. 29Twiggs Co., GA(f)
Mary E. 10Twiggs Co., GA(f)
W. P. 01Dougherty Co., GA(m)
page 577
fam. #342
Senate GILDER35Twiggs Co., GA overseer
C. 28Twiggs Co., GA(f)
Mary 10Twiggs Co., GA(f)
Bilo? 03Dougherty Co., GA(f)
(apparently the same family, enumerated a second time)
page 592
fam. #482
W. J? GILDER 40Twiggs Co., GA overseer
Mary 42Twiggs Co., GA(f)
K. A. 20Twiggs Co., GA(f)
Amanda 14Twiggs Co., GA(f)
J? J? 16Twiggs Co., GA(m)
1870 Dougherty Co., GA
page 464
fam. #329
Catherine GILDER28GA seamstress
Mollie DALTON 17GA seamstress
Alasia? DALTON 03GA (f)
(and three blacks)
[This could be Senate’s daughters Catherine & Mary]
The Senate and W. J. GILDER who are both in 1860 Dougherty Co. seem to be the same who appear together in 1840 Twiggs Co.:
1840 Twiggs Co., GA
page 372
line 26
John W. GILDER 1m 20-30;2f 0-5, 1f 15-20
page 373
line 26
Elenor GILDER 2m 5-10, 3m 10-15;1f 0-5, 1f 15-20, 1f 30-40, 2f 40-50
page 378
line 2
Cenate GILDER 1m 20-30;1f 20-30
line 11
William GILDER 1m 20-30;1f 0-5, 1f 20-30
page 379
line 12
Isaac GILDER 1m 20-30;1f 0-5, 1f 5-10, 1f 20-30
[Note that this “Cenate” was born 1810-20, if this listing is correct, and would be 9 to 19 years older than the Senate (born ca 1829) in 1850 Pulaski Co. and later in Dougherty.Do we have a THIRD young Senate here, in addition to the one born in the 1770’s who died in Chambers Co., AL?]
“Elenor” was, I believe, the last wife of Revolutionary soldier Isaac GILDER, born 1750-60, who died in Twiggs Co. 1830-40 and whose (modern) tombstone is at Prospect Methodist Church there.According to Harris’s History of Pulaski and Bleckley Counties, Isaac’s daughter Lydia (wife of William P. COLLINS) died 31 July 1889 in Pulaski Co., and her grave was marked by the DAR in 1932 as a “real daughter” of a Rev. Soldier-- in attendance then was Mrs. Sophi VAUGHN SWAILES of Dublin, GA, aged granddaughter of Isaac GILDER and niece of Mrs. COLLINS (da. of Emily GILDER VAUGHN of Twiggs, & g'da. of Isaac GILDER and his last wife Nellie).
Of the four young GILDER men near Elenor in 1840, one seems to be the John W. (b. ca 1818) in Twiggs in 1850 (next door to P.B. GILDER born ca 1825) and in Laurens Co. in 1860 & 1870 with wife Martha (b. ca 1821).
Were it not for the discrepency in Senate J. GILDER’s age, it would appear that the Senate and W. J? in 1860 Dougherty Co. (both born in Twiggs) might be the “Cenate” and “William” on the same page in 1840 Twiggs.
The fourth young GILDER in 1840 Twiggs, Isaac, seems to be the Isaac (born ca 1813) in 1850 Twiggs with wife Diana (b. ca 1810).The same Isaac and family show up in Choctaw Co., AL in 1860, 1870, and 1880 as “Isaac J.” or “I. J.” GILDER.
I would like to find evidence to support my THEORY that Rev. soldier Isaac GILDER of Twiggs Co., GA (born 1750’s, died 1830’s) was married at least twice;by an early marriage (Elizabeth?), he was the father of Senate GILDER (born 1770’s, died 1838 Chambers Co., AL), and by his marriage to Eleanor “Nellie,” he was the father of a number of younger children, probably including John W., William, and Isaac J. GILDER (all born 1810-1820).
Any documentation or even circumstantial evidence to confirm or refute this THEORY will be greatly appreciated!