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Posted by: Ron Head (ID *****0779) Date: September 20, 2007 at 21:21:45
In Reply to: Re: SENATE J. GUILDER, TWIGGS CO, GA by Robert Shepard of 203

There seems to have been some confusion between two Senate J. GILDER’s, who were of approximately the same age:

1850 Chambers Co., AL
page 282
fam. #249
Frances GILDER 49 GA       $3,000 real estate
Rebecca        26 GA
Sinnet J?       23 GA
James              20 GA
Jacob H.        18 GA
Reuben F.        13 GA

1850 Pulaski Co., GA
page 244, fam. #244
Senate GUILDER       21 GA
Cassa A.       19? GA
Mary E.              01 GA

It seems quite likely that the S. J. GILDER in Chambers Co., AL was a son of “Sinnot” GILDER who died testate there in 1838, naming in his will his (second) wife Frances and son “Sinnot J.,” who was not then of age. I find him in later censuses in Coosa and Lee Co., AL:

1860 Coosa Co., AL
page 279
fam. #402
Frances GILDER 58 GA        $1,200 R.E. / $15,000 P.E.
S. J.               32 GA                / $2,000 P.E.

1870 Lee Co., AL
page 242 (Opelika)
fam. #207
S. J. GUILDER 43 GA       brick manufacturing / $100 P.E.
J. O.               42 GA (f)
M.               07 GA (f)
W. C. GRADY 22 TN (m) brick manuf.
L. P. JEPSON       29 GA (m) brick manuf.
D. GUILDER       14 AL (m) mulatto
C. GUILDER       10 AL (m) mulatto

The Pulaski Co., GA Senate J. GILDER (slightly younger than the other), is the one who married “Cassa” BRIDGER, and later lived in Dougherty Co., GA:

1860 Dougherty Co., GA
page 573
fam. #314
S. J. GILDER       31 Twiggs Co., GA              overseer
C. A.               29 Twiggs Co., GA (f)
Mary E.        10 Twiggs Co., GA (f)
W. P.               01 Dougherty Co., GA (m)

page 577
fam. #342
Senate GILDER 35 Twiggs Co., GA        overseer
C.         28 Twiggs Co., GA (f)
Mary        10 Twiggs Co., GA (f)
Bilo?        03 Dougherty Co., GA (f)
(apparently the same family, enumerated a second time)

page 592
fam. #482
W. J? GILDER       40 Twiggs Co., GA        overseer
Mary              42 Twiggs Co., GA (f)
K. A.               20 Twiggs Co., GA (f)
Amanda              14 Twiggs Co., GA (f)
J? J?              16 Twiggs Co., GA (m)

1870 Dougherty Co., GA
page 464
fam. #329
Catherine GILDER 28 GA        seamstress
Mollie DALTON       17 GA        seamstress
Alasia? DALTON       03 GA (f)
(and three blacks)

[This could be Senate’s daughters Catherine & Mary]

The Senate and W. J. GILDER who are both in 1860 Dougherty Co. seem to be the same who appear together in 1840 Twiggs Co.:

1840 Twiggs Co., GA
page 372
line 26
John W. GILDER       1m 20-30; 2f 0-5, 1f 15-20
page 373
line 26
Elenor GILDER       2m 5-10, 3m 10-15; 1f 0-5, 1f 15-20, 1f 30-40, 2f 40-50
page 378
line 2
Cenate GILDER       1m 20-30; 1f 20-30
line 11
William GILDER       1m 20-30; 1f 0-5, 1f 20-30
page 379
line 12
Isaac GILDER       1m 20-30; 1f 0-5, 1f 5-10, 1f 20-30

[Note that this “Cenate” was born 1810-20, if this listing is correct, and would be 9 to 19 years older than the Senate (born ca 1829) in 1850 Pulaski Co. and later in Dougherty. Do we have a THIRD young Senate here, in addition to the one born in the 1770’s who died in Chambers Co., AL?]

“Elenor” was, I believe, the last wife of Revolutionary soldier Isaac GILDER, born 1750-60, who died in Twiggs Co. 1830-40 and whose (modern) tombstone is at Prospect Methodist Church there. According to Harris’s History of Pulaski and Bleckley Counties, Isaac’s daughter Lydia (wife of William P. COLLINS) died 31 July 1889 in Pulaski Co., and her grave was marked by the DAR in 1932 as a “real daughter” of a Rev. Soldier-- in attendance then was Mrs. Sophi VAUGHN SWAILES of Dublin, GA, aged granddaughter of Isaac GILDER and niece of Mrs. COLLINS (da. of Emily GILDER VAUGHN of Twiggs, & g'da. of Isaac GILDER and his last wife Nellie).

Of the four young GILDER men near Elenor in 1840, one seems to be the John W. (b. ca 1818) in Twiggs in 1850 (next door to P.B. GILDER born ca 1825) and in Laurens Co. in 1860 & 1870 with wife Martha (b. ca 1821).

Were it not for the discrepency in Senate J. GILDER’s age, it would appear that the Senate and W. J? in 1860 Dougherty Co. (both born in Twiggs) might be the “Cenate” and “William” on the same page in 1840 Twiggs.

The fourth young GILDER in 1840 Twiggs, Isaac, seems to be the Isaac (born ca 1813) in 1850 Twiggs with wife Diana (b. ca 1810). The same Isaac and family show up in Choctaw Co., AL in 1860, 1870, and 1880 as “Isaac J.” or “I. J.” GILDER.

I would like to find evidence to support my THEORY that Rev. soldier Isaac GILDER of Twiggs Co., GA (born 1750’s, died 1830’s) was married at least twice; by an early marriage (Elizabeth?), he was the father of Senate GILDER (born 1770’s, died 1838 Chambers Co., AL), and by his marriage to Eleanor “Nellie,” he was the father of a number of younger children, probably including John W., William, and Isaac J. GILDER (all born 1810-1820).

Any documentation or even circumstantial evidence to confirm or refute this THEORY will be greatly appreciated!

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