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Re: Benjamin Gilbert # 161 in your genealogy. I'm responding to your posting because of a deletion of my ancestor Sgt. Joseph Gilbert, a son of the above Benjamin Gilbert. To quote part of an article in the American Genealogist in Jan. 1961 by Geoffrey Gilbert, PhD., Victoria, B.C. Canada (author of "Gilberts of New England")...
"Sgt. Joseph Gilbert, a Revolutionary soldier, was born about 1748-9, probably in West Hartford, CT. He was married 21 Mar. 1774 in New Hartford, by Rev. Jonathan Marsh, to Miriam Hopkins, daughter of Elias and Miriam (Webster) Hopkins. About 1800 the family moved from New Hartford to Lima, Livingston Co., NY Joseph died 11 Nov. 1812. Miriam survived until 20 Jan. 1839, and was granted a widow's pension a year of so earlier. Fourteen children were born of the marriage, and they left numerous descendants.
The parentage of Sgt. Joseph has been a matter of doubt. It is not stated in any of the printed DAR Lineages, no birth record has been found for him, and searches of the pension papers seen to have been fruitless. However, "The Gilbert Family", by Homer W. Brainard et al, lists him as the third of five children of Theodore5 (Joseph4, Joseph3, John2, Thomas1) and Mary (Waters) Gilbert, though no supporting evidence is given. In the list of Theodore's children, Joseph's birthdate is "abt. 1753", but in the section covering Joseph himself it becomes "about 1748-9." The earlier date agrees best with other evidence, but Theodore did not marry until 11 June 1750.
Allen D. Russell of Plymouth, MA, in the course of a long search for another Joseph Gilbert, investigated Sgt. Joseph extensively, and concluded that he was probably an unlisted son of Benjamin4 (Joseph3, John2, Thomas1) and Elizabeth (Marshfield) Gilbert of W. Hartford and therefore a first cousin of Theodore. Proof of the correctness of this hypothesis has recently come to light-in the pension papers!
The key document is an affidavit dated 2 Aug. 1837 at New Hartford:
"I, Jonathan Marsh of New Hartford...now aged 80 years, testify...that I was born in ...New Hartford on the first day of March 1757, and have always resided in that town...I was intimately acquainted with Joseph Gilbert of said New Hartford, and with Mirriam Hopkins whom he married...said Joseph Gilbert and his wife was near neighbors to my fathers family at the time of his marriage, and his family always resided in the neighborhood with me while he lived in town, which was more than twenty-five years. One of the said Gilberts brothers married my sister..." Deponet was not the Rev. Jonathan Marsh who performed the marriage ceremony; he was the latter's second cousin once removed. His birthdate identifies him as son of Jonathan4 (Jonathan3, John2, John1) and Theodosia (Kellogg) Marsh. According to the "Marsh Genealogy" (D. W. Marsh, 1895) there were nine children in this family; Jonathan, Jr., had one brother and seven sisters. One sister died in infancy and one died unmarried; the others married respectively a Gilbert, a Flower, a Seymour, a Sheldon, and a Northway. The one who married a Gilbert was the eldest, Theodosia, and the Gilbert she married was John, listed by Brainard as eighth of ten children of Benjamin4. Much is known about the John-Theodosia family, and I see no reason to doubt the correctness of this identification. Benjamin left no will nor probate, but it seems certain that he was the father of the John who married Theodosia Marsh and therefore also the father of Sgt. Joseph..."
Sgt. Joseph and Mirriam (Hopkins) Gilbert were the parents of Clarise Gilbert b. 30 June, 1783 (New Hartford, CT records). She became the wife of Joseph Anthony b. 1778 in Meriden, CT. They were my ggggrandparents.
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