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Re: Australian with Gazey relatives needs help
Posted by: Gillian Palmer (ID *****1111) Date: August 09, 2002 at 08:29:41
In Reply to: Re: Australian with Gazey relatives needs help by N J Gazey of 200

Hi Jo and NJ,

As briefly as possible herewith notes from the article by John Fysh (a much missed friend!), which he wrote while researching the family of Neville Gazey of Brora:

The marriage of Frederick and Sarah took place on April 8th, 1851. Frederick was a bachelor, a mariner on the HMS Britannia, the son of John Gazey, labourer. Sarah Exton, who signed her name with a cross, was 19 years old, of Elson, Alverstoke in the County of Southampton, after banns. The witnesses were William Greenfield and Emma Gilman. The GRO reference for this marriage is GRO Alverstoke, 1851, Qtr end June, Ref. 747.

Tony tells us that Frederick's original trade was that of shoemaker. It has been pointed out to us that there was a very great need for shoemakers in the British army!

John found Frederick's baptism in Redditch, on 18th January, 1829, and his death on 4th April. 1883, at Aston (Birmingham). Sarah had been baptised on 5th April, 1835, the daughter of Henry Exton and Sarah Abraham who married on 26th December, 1825.

Frederick and Sarah had nine children:

1. (H)Ellen, born in 18152 in Alverstoke, who John suspected married Patrick Ryan on 8th November, 1869.
2. Frederick John, born in Alverstoke and who died in 1873, aged 19 years and who married Emma Bailey on 5th May, 1872, at Portsea. Emma died in 1872, in Aston, aged 18 years. They had one child, Frederick William, born in 1872 in Aston, who died also in Aston in 1873. How cruel!
3. Kate, born in Lewes in 1856.
4. Charles Henry, born in Alverstoke in 1862 and who died there 3 years' later.
5. Edith Elizabeth, birth not found by John, but he found her death in 1865 in Alverstoke.
6. William R. also died in Alverstoke in 1866, 0 years of age.
7. Gladston who was born on 30th December, 1866, at Forton.
8. Lilly Ann (spelt thus) was born in Aston in 1872.
9. Ada, born in Aston in 1880.

Frederick Gladston (sometimes spelt Gladstone, sometimes with the Christian names reversed and sometimes with Frederick ommitted, was married on July 3rd, 1887. He was a bachelor, a brass founder of Garrison Lane, Birmingham. Can we suppose that brass founders in Garrison Lane may well have made cannon? His bride, Frances Mary Mountney, also of Garrison Lane, was 20 years of age, the daughter of Frederick Mountney, railway servant, in the Parish Church of Bishop Ryder, after banns, by Alfred J.Shovell, B.A., curate. The witnesses were William Mountney and Lily Ann Gazey. All four signed their names. The GRO reference for this marriage is GRO Birmingham, 1887, qtr end Sept., Ref: 6d 37.

John found the father of Frederick Gladstone, John Gazey, at Newbold Pacey in Warwickshire.

John Gazey was baptised on 14th April, 1799, at Newbold Pacey. On 15th October, 1826, he married Mary Nichols in Redditch. Mary had been born approx. 1797 in Foxlydiate, Webheath. John believed that she was the Mary Gazey who died in 1878, aged 79 years, in Bromsgrove.

They had 9 children:

1. Ann, baptised 10th August, 1827, in Redditch Wesleyan Hall.
2. Frederick (the RM Colour Sergeant) baptised 18th January, 1829, in Redditch.
3. Charles, baptised 26th September, 1830, in Redditch.
4. Thomas, baptised 10th June, 1832, in Redditch.
5. Mary, baptised 20th October, 1833, in Redditch.
6. Sarah, born qtr end June, 1838, in West Bromwich.
7. John, baptised 23rd April 1840, at Harvils Hawthorne, West Bromwich, together with
8. Thomas, who may have been John's twin.
9. William, born qtr end December, 1842, in West Bromwich.

John suspected that John of 1799 may have been the son of Thomas and Mary Geasy, who appear on the 1841 Newbold Pacey Census, fo.5, p.2: Thomas, aged 75, ag.lab, and Mary, aged 65.

The 1841 Census shows John Gasy, aged 40 years, ag.lab. and his family living at Harvill Hawthorn, West Bromwich.

In 1851 John was working as a labourer in Redditch, while Mary was working as a charewoman. Sarah, aged 12, was a needle paperer, whil William, aged 10, was a needle stamper.

By 1861, Mary Gasey was a widow of 65, working as a laundress, living in a private house in Wapping, Redditch. John, aged 20, was a needle maker and William, aged 18, was a needle finisher.

In 1871, Mary was a chairwoman, giving her place of birth as Tardebigg, instead of Foxlydiate, Webheath, while in 1871, in Alverstoke, her daughter-in-law, Sarah, was living at 10 St.John's Square (part of), aged 34 years, head of the family, working as a laundress.

Hope this helps a little, Jo.

Cheers, Gillian.

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