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Pioneer Robert Gagnon (1 of 3 Gagnon pioneers)
Posted by: Janet Manseau (ID *****2030) Date: May 14, 2011 at 13:17:45
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Descendants of Jean Gagnon
Compiled by Janet Manseau Donaldson
Use as a guide only

Generation No. 1

       1. Jean1 Gagnon was born about 1600 in Tourouver, France. He married Marie Geoffroy. She was born about 1600 in Tourouver, France.

Notes for Jean Gagnon:
He was a resident at the hamlet of La Gaignonnière at Tourouvre. He was a plowman.
       
Child of Jean Gagnon and Marie Geoffroy is:
+       2       i.       Robert2 Gagnon, born 01 Mar 1628 in Ste. Madeleine, La Ventrouze, Tourouvre, France; died 01 Sep 1703 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.


Generation No. 2

       2. Robert2 Gagnon (Jean1) was born 01 Mar 1628 in Ste. Madeleine, La Ventrouze, Tourouvre, France, and died 01 Sep 1703 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. He married Marie Parenteau 03 Oct 1657 in Notre Dame de Québec City, QC ( 1, Audouart), daughter of Antoine Parenteau and Anne Brisson. She was born about 1640 in St. Nicolas de La Rochelle, Aunis, France, and died 16 Nov 1705 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.

Notes for Robert Gagnon:
Robert was baptized 01 March 1628 in the parish of Sainte-Madeleine in La Ventrouze (canton of Tourouvre, near Mortagne), Perche, the second of seven children of plowman Jean Gagnon and Marie Geffray, who were married before 05 June 1626 in La Ventrouze. His godparents were Robert Debray and Madeleine Loche (wife of Noel Desavis). Robert's father is originally from Malétable. His mother is the daughter of plowman Felix Geifray or Geoffray (Guillaume Geffray & Marie Rousseau) and Jeanne Chevalier from La Ventrouze. Robert Gagnon is noted in New France on 02 April 1656, when he received a land grant on the lle d'Orléans from Charles de Lauzon between his friend Guillaume Landry and Jacques Perrot dit Viliedaigre, husbands of "Filles à Marier", Gabrielle Barré and Michelle Le Flot. This land was later identified as plot 65 on the 1689 map of the Île d'Orléans drawn up by engineer Villeneuve.
Robert Gagnon died 01 September 1703 in his son Jacques' home at Sainte Famille, where he was buried the next day. Notary Etienne Jacob drew up an inventory of his estate on 21 February 1704.




Notes for Marie Parenteau:
"Filles à Marier", page 243, Marie Parenteau or Parentelle, was born about 1640 in the parish of Saint-Nicolas in La Rochelle, Aunis, the daughter of miller and long sawyer Antoine Parenteau or Parentelle and Anne Brisson, who were married 23 January 1633 in the parish of Saint-Barthélemi in La Rochelle. Her father is the son of Antoine Parenteau and Jeanne Perodin from Périgny, both of whom died before 1633. Her mother is the daughter of Jacques Brisson and Jacquette Peaune from Saint-Soulle, both of whom died between 1633 and 1642. Marie came to New France in 1657, 13 years before her younger sister Marie. Her father died some time before 1660 and her mother was buried 23 December 1662 in the parish of Notre-Dame-de-Cogne in La Rochelle.
On 03 October 1657, Marie married Robert Gagnon at Québec City. She could not sign the marriage contract drawn up 01 October by notary Audouart in the home of Anne Gasnier (wife of Jean Bourdon), but her husband could. The fact that the contract was drawn up in the Bourdon household seems to suggest that Marie was lodged there before her marriage. Guillaume Landry, a native of La Ventrouze like Robert and future husband of "Filles à Marier", Gabrielle Barré, was present at the contract signing, as was Robert's cousin, "Filles à Marier", Marguerite Aubert, also from La Ventrouze. It has been said that Robert is the cousin of brothers Jean, Pierre and Mathurin Gagnon, but none of the three were present at the signing of his marriage contract.
Daughters Marie and Renée became nuns with the Congregation Notre-Dame de Montréal, which had opened a convent at Sainte Famille in 1685.
Son Jean-François died 04 January 1688 and was buried the same day at Sainte Famille, a victim of that year's smallpox epidemic. Marie and Robert lost three more children to the smallpox epidemic of 1703: Pierre, Renée and Elisabeth. Robert Gagnon died 01 September 1703 in his son Jacques' home at Sainte Famille, where he was buried the next day. Notary Etienne Jacob drew up an inventory of his estate on 21 February 1704.
After his death, Robert's act was drawn up 20 February 1704 named Marie guardian of her son Joseph (who had not reached 25, the age of majority), with Charles Loignon as trustee. Marie Parenteau or Parentelle had notary Chambalon draw up her will on 19 October 1705. She died less than a month later, on 16 November 1705, and was buried the next day at Sainte Famille. In her will, she allocated 50 livres (today's USA value of about $715) for her funeral and 60 livres for 60 masses (about $14 USA today for each mass) to be said at Sainte Famille for the repose of her soul and that of her late husband, with an additional 20 livres earmarked for the poor of the parish. An inventory of her estate was drawn up 11 March 1706 by notary Etienne Jacob.
       
Children of Robert Gagnon and Marie Parenteau are:
+       3       i.       Jean3 Gagnon, born 16 Feb 1659 in Québec City, QC; died 16 Feb 1742 in Riviere, Ouelle, QC.
+       4       ii.       Elisabeth-Isabelle Gagnon, born 29 Sep 1661 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 01 Mar 1703 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC.
       5       iii.       Claude Gagnon, born 05 Apr 1664 in Île d'Orléans, QC; died Bef. 1666 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
+       6       iv.       Jacques Gagnon, born about 1666 in Unknown, QC; died 24 Jan 1753 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       7       v.       Marie Gagnon, Sister St. Joachim, born 07 Jul 1668 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 10 Mar 1747 in Montréal, QC.

Notes for Marie Gagnon, Sister St. Joachim:
She became a nun with the Congregation Notre Dame de Montréal, which had opened a convent at Ste. Famille in 1685. Her name became Soeur (sister) Saint Joachim.

       8       vi.       Jean-Francois Gagnon, born 21 Aug 1670 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 04 Jan 1688 in Ste. Famille, Île d'Oleans, QC.

Notes for Jean-Francois Gagnon:
He was a victim of the 1687-88 smallpox epidemic.

       9       vii.       Pierre Gagnon, born 30 Jan 1673 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 09 Feb 1703 in Ste. Famille, Île d'Oleans, QC. He married Marie-Louise Letourneau 18 Jan 1700 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 07 Dec 1681 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 18 Sep 1752 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.

Notes for Pierre Gagnon:
He died of smallpox.

+       10       viii.       Marie-Anne Gagnon, born 14 May 1675 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 18 Mar 1767 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
       11       ix.       Marie-Renee Gagnon, Sister Ste. Agathe, born 27 Feb 1678 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 14 Feb 1703 in Boucherville, Chambly, QC.

Notes for Marie-Renee Gagnon, Sister Ste. Agathe:
Like her older sister Marie, Renee became a nun with the Congregation Notre Dame de Montréal. Her religious name was Soeur (sister) Saint Agnes. She died of smallpox.

       12       x.       Joseph Gagnon, born 15 Sep 1680 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 27 Aug 1742 in Hôtel Dieu de Québec City, QC. He married Anne Louineau, (Pierre & Marie Breval-Bertin) 13 Nov 1710 in Québec City, QC; born 25 Jul 1688 in Québec City, QC; died 03 Jan 1767 in Québec City, QC.


Generation No. 3

       3. Jean3 Gagnon (Robert2, Jean1) was born 16 Feb 1659 in Québec City, QC, and died 16 Feb 1742 in Riviere, Ouelle, QC. He married (1) Jeanne-Marie-Anne Loignon 29 Oct 1686 in Québec City, QC (ct 25, Duquet), daughter of Pierre Loignon and Francoise Roussin. She was born 14 Jan 1671 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, Montmorency, QC, and died 27 Aug 1717 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married (2) Francoise Dore 04 Nov 1718 in Québec City, QC. She was born 16 Apr 1678 in Québec City, QC, and died 10 Dec 1748 in Québec City, QC.

Notes for Jean Gagnon:
He was Captain of the militia in 1730 at Rivière Ouelle.
       
Children of Jean Gagnon and Jeanne-Marie-Anne Loignon are:
       13       i.       Jean-Baptiste4 Gagnon, born 11 Jan 1688 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 28 Jul 1753 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married Marie-Genevieve Gamache 05 Sep 1713 in L'Islel, QC; born 05 Oct 1692 in Cap St. Ignace, Montmagny, QC; died 20 Mar 1736 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       14       ii.       Marie Gagnon, born 17 Oct 1690 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 28 Sep 1726 in La Pocatière, Kamouraska, QC. She married Pierre Dessaint-dit-St.Pierre 27 Jul 1712 in Notre Dame de Liesse, Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; born about 08 Jan 1684 in La Grande Anse, Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 19 Dec 1749 in St. Roch des Aulnaies, QC.

Notes for Pierre Dessaint-dit-St.Pierre:
His baptism register was not found, but according to the given age at his mariage (28), the fecondity periods of Marie Gerbert and the birth dates of Elisabeth and Marie-Barbe, one may conclude that he would have been born around October 1683. One source states that he was born 8 January 1684 in La Grande Anse and baptised there 25 march 1684 ) died 19 Dec 1749 in St. Roch des Aulnaies, QC.

       15       iii.       Marie-Angelique Gagnon, born 23 Dec 1692 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 09 Nov 1762 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. She married Jean-Baptiste Hudon-dit-Beaulieu 09 Jan 1713 in Notre Dame de Liesse, Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC (ct 7, Janneau); born 26 Apr 1687 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 04 May 1754 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.

Notes for Jean-Baptiste Hudon-dit-Beaulieu:
He and his younger brother, Jean-Bernard Hudon, married sisters. Both these couples are ancestors to my grandmother Claudia Lavoie Manseau.

       16       iv.       Marie-Charlotte-Charles Gagnon, born 26 May 1695 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 01 Jun 1771 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. She married Jean-Bernard Hudon-dit-Beaulieu 13 Jun 1718 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC (ct 11, Janneau); born 03 Jan 1694 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 15 Sep 1759 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.

Notes for Jean-Bernard Hudon-dit-Beaulieu:
He and his older brother, Jean-Baptiste Hudon, married sisters. Both these couples are ancestors to my grandmother Claudia Lavoie Manseau.

       17       v.       Joseph Gagnon, born 21 Sep 1697 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 30 Oct 1758 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married M-Exupere Trottier-dit-Desruisseaux-Labissoniere 24 Nov 1738 in Batiscan, QC; born 22 Dec 1719 in Batiscan, QC; died 28 Nov 1786 in La Pocatière, QC.
       18       vi.       Pierre Gagnon, born about 1699 in Unknown, QC; died 29 Jul 1721 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       19       vii.       Pierre Gagnon, born about 1701 in Unknown, QC; died 04 Nov 1724 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       20       viii.       Antoine Gagnon, born 03 Sep 1702 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 04 May 1775 in La Pocatière, Kamouraska, QC. He married Reine-Marie Ouellet 24 Nov 1727 in La Pocatière, Kamouraska, QC; born Sep 1704 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 27 Dec 1782 in La Pocatière, Kamouraska, QC.
       21       ix.       Marie-Francoise Gagnon, born 04 Dec 1704 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 18 Dec 1785 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. She married (1) Joseph-Julien Grissau, (Joseph & Nicolas Huard) 21 Jan 1744 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; born about 1704 in Unknown, QC; died Bef. 18 Nov 1754 in Unknown, QC. She married (2) Michel Bisson, (Simon & Marie Anne Groulx) 18 Nov 1754 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; born about 1720 in Unknown, QC; died 24 Jan 1801 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       22       x.       Francois Gagnon, born 08 Dec 1707 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 12 Mar 1795 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married Marie-Catherine Morel-dit-DeLaDurantaye 10 Jan 1730 in Kamouraska, QC; born 08 Oct 1707 in La Durantaye, QC; died 16 Dec 1786 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       23       xi.       Jean-Baptiste Gagnon, born 01 Mar 1710 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 09 Apr 1783 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married (1) Marie-Madeleine Dessaint-dit-St.Pierre 18 Jan 1735 in St. Roch des Aulnaies, QC; born 20 Apr 1718 in La Pocatière, Kamouraska, QC; died 31 Jan 1736 in St. Roch des Aulnaies, QC. He married (2) Marguerite Serien-dit-Langlais 13 Aug 1736 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; born 05 Feb 1719 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 06 Mar 1808 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       24       xii.       Charles Gagnon, born 18 Feb 1712 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 05 Mar 1712 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       25       xiii.       Jean-Bernard Gagnon, born 16 Apr 1713 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 13 Jan 1722 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.


       4. Elisabeth-Isabelle3 Gagnon (Robert2, Jean1) was born 29 Sep 1661 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC, and died 01 Mar 1703 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC. She married (1) Louis Moreau 21 Feb 1678 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, son of Francois Moreau and Francoise DuBout. He was born about 1648 in St. Georges du Bois, La Rochelle, Saintonge, France, and died 12 Jan 1683 in Cote de Lauzon, QC. She married (2) Jean Baril 25 May 1684 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC (ct 24, Genaple). He was born about 1646 in Saintes, Saintonge, France, and died 09 Feb 1724 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC.

Notes for Elisabeth-Isabelle Gagnon:
She died of smallpox.

Notes for Louis Moreau:
On 4 June 1668 in La Rochelle, France, he signed a work contract to work as a tailor of fine clothes in New France. He was noted as being in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans on 13 June 1671.
He was listed as being 33 in the 1681 Château Richer census.
Louis Moreau die from an accident in his own home ("MORT PAR ACCIDENT DANS SON HABITATION"). Father Henri Debernieres noted Louis as being 34 years old at the time.

Notes for Jean Baril:
He was first noted in a contract on 20 Nov 1667 by La Touche. Jean was listed as being 35 in the 1681 census at Batiscan and once again 35 in 1684, so take your pick.
       
Children of Elisabeth-Isabelle Gagnon and Louis Moreau are:
       26       i.       Elisabeth-Isabelle4 Moreau, born 28 Sep 1679 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 26 Dec 1772 in La Pérade, QC. She married Gabriel Courtois 05 Apr 1701 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC; born 05 Sep 1672 in Québec City, QC; died 09 Feb 1760 in La Pérade, QC.
       27       ii.       Genevieve Moreau, born 02 Nov 1681 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC; died 18 Dec 1749 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC. She married Jean-Baptiste Cadoret 11 Feb 1709 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC; born 12 Sep 1687 in L'Ange Gardien, QC; died 23 May 1769 in Pointe de Lévy, Lauzon, QC.

       
Children of Elisabeth-Isabelle Gagnon and Jean Baril are:
       28       i.       Mathurin4 Baril-dit-Baricour, born 11 Jan 1688 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC. He married Marie-Madeleine Gailloux 14 Apr 1711 in Batiscan, Champlain, Quebrec, Canada; born 16 Aug 1688 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC; died 01 Feb 1761 in Ste. Anne de la Pérade, Champlain, QC.
       29       ii.       Francois Baril, born 03 Apr 1690 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC; died 16 Jun 1759 in General Hospital of Montréal, QC. He married Charlotte-Anne-Antoinette-Marie Gailloux 11 Feb 1716 in Batiscan, Champlain, Quebrec, Canada; born 19 Apr 1694 in Batiscan, Champlain, QC; died 11 Feb 1758 in Ste. Geneviève de Batiscan, QC.


       6. Jacques3 Gagnon (Robert2, Jean1) was born about 1666 in Unknown, QC, and died 24 Jan 1753 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married Marie-Madeleine Rochon/Rocheron 24 Jan 1695 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, daughter of Gervais Rochon/Rocheron and Marie-Madeleine Guyon-dit-Dion. She was born 09 Feb 1676 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 22 Nov 1739 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       
Children of Jacques Gagnon and Marie-Madeleine Rochon/Rocheron are:
       30       i.       Joseph4 Gagnon, born 06 Jan 1701 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 29 Aug 1791 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married Marie-Therese Migneault-dit-Labrie 02 May 1725 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; born 11 Nov 1694 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       31       ii.       Marie-Josephe Gagnon, born 17 Mar 1703 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. She married Jean-Francois Dube 09 Feb 1744 in St. Roch des Aulnaies, QC; born 08 Nov 1711 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 23 May 1785 in Chambly, QC.
       32       iii.       Jean-Francois Gagnon, born 12 Feb 1707 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married Marie-Anne Pelletier 02 Dec 1730 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; born 19 Nov 1708 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC; died 07 May 1751 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC.
       33       iv.       Jacques Gagnon, born 05 Jun 1710 in Rivière Ouelle, Kamouraska, QC. He married Marie-Madeleine Pinel-dit-Lafrance 18 Nov 1748 in Ste. Anne de la Pocatière, QC; born 26 Sep 1726 in La Pocatière, Kamouraska, QC.


       10. Marie-Anne3 Gagnon (Robert2, Jean1) was born 14 May 1675 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 18 Mar 1767 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC. She married (1) Hippolyte Thibierge, (Hippolyte & Renee Herve) 17 Jan 1695 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. He was born 01 Jan 1672 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 07 Jan 1703 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. She married (2) Joseph Charland-dit-Francoeur, (Noel & M.Turcot) 07 Mar 1707 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC. He was born 05 Jan 1684 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC, and died 08 Apr 1747 in Château Richer, Montmorency, QC.
       
Child of Marie-Anne Gagnon and Hippolyte Thibierge is:
       34       i.       Jean-Baptiste-Francois4 Thibierge, born 16 Mar 1701 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 04 Jan 1775 in Ste. Marie de Beauce, QC. He married Marie-Marthe Langlois 29 Aug 1729 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; born 14 Feb 1706 in St. Pierre de l'Île d'Orléans, QC; died 23 Jun 1787 in Ste. Famille de l'Île d'Orléans, QC.


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My resources are limited because I live in Oregon. I hope that you use this information only as a guide. I welcome corrections and additions from anyone that has access to the original files.

Originally I paid a genealogy society to trace the direct lines for 6 of my 8 great grandparents. They used the books that were compiled by volunteers for each parish. Because so many individuals had the same name, I eventually found some errors in these books. Then I used Tanguay and found out that he may be about 75% right and Jette (that goes to 1730) is about 90% right. Then just as I thought that I was finished, I found PRDH (University of Montreal) and I believe that they may be 98% right and still make corrections to their records. They go up to 1799 for marriage contracts and 1850 for some deaths. Some people have the luxury of having the original records at their disposal. I do not have that and with 17,000 individuals in my data base, I can not afford to pay for copies of all the originals. At that point I confirmed every that I had with the records at PRDH. Whenever I say “about” for a birth date it means that PRDH did not find it or if it is in the 1800s, I did not look it up because of my lack of resources.

PRDH uses the most common spelling variation for the names. This makes it easier to trace the families. They do not always use the original name that appears on the contracts or birth records. That is ok with me, because many individuals before the 1900s could not sign their names and did not even care how others spelt it. As a result the same person’s name took on a variety of spellings. I also kept the “dit” (aka) names because eventually brothers from the same family, picked a different aka name. For a very small fee PRDH has all the Canadian records from 1600-1799 and some death dates up to 1850. Their records are about 18% accurate. They can be found at:
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For the 1800-1900s I paid to prove my direct lines. My data for their extended family come from people on the web. The program that I use does not allow for baptismal dates, so if I don’t have a birth date, I use the baptismal date. The same goes for death vs. burial dates and actual wedding vs. contract dates. The newer programs have these features, but I will not be going through 18,000 records to make the changes.

Use this information as a guide only. I view genealogy as a hobby and not as pure science. As for the stories, I got them all in French on the web and I translated them for my grandchildren. I had not read or spoken French in over 40 years, so it was difficult and may not be the best translation.

Enjoy, Janet












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