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Colonel John Flood was once thought to be the son Nicholas Fludd, son of Sir Thomas Fludd. This is not possible for many reasons: 1) according to the parish records of Canterbury Nicholas’ son John died a few days after he was born. 2) Sir Thomas Fludd had no son named Nicholas. 3) Sir Thomas’ will in 1607 identifies all of his heirs and Colonel John is not included.
There is a strong possibility that Colonel John was the son of Sir Thomas’ brother William:
Gen I. William Lloyd, of Iston St Martin was born about 1530 in Morton, Shropshire, Eng, (see Visitation of Shropshire, Vol II, page 335, online w/Google Books.)
William’s children are not listed, but the visitation showing Sir Thomas’ father’s family in Shropshire states William was of Iston which is in St. Martin’s Parish and that he had three sons. The visitation’s listing of the entire family does not appear to be complete. A Robert Lloyd gives the same line of descent as Sir Thomas. He then names a nephew Thomas of St. Martin’s parish and includes the names of the children of Thomas. Thomas must be the son of William since they both were of the same place.
Gen 2. Thomas Lloyd, of St. Martins was born about 1560 in Iston St Martin, Shropshire, Eng. (see British Nat Archives Prob 11/86 image 304.)
Children of Thomas Lloyd, of St. Martins are:
Gen 3 i. Robert Lloyd, born about 1580 in Iston St Martin, Shropshire, Eng.
ii. Katherine Lloyd, born about 1590 in Iston St Martin, Shropshire, Eng.
iii. Elizabeth Lloyd, born about 1590 in Iston St Martin, Shropshire, Eng.
iv. John Lloyd, born about 1590 in Iston St Martin, Shropshire, Eng.
Thomas’ son John would be the perfect candidate to go to America. He was a younger son of a well connected family.
How then was Colonel John Flood related to Cecily Flood? Most likely John’s father and Cecily’s father were brothers. Cecily’s father stated that he was from Wrexham, Denbighshire (that’s less then ten miles north of St. Martins’ Parish) before he went to live in Chichester in Sussex.
Gen 2. William Fludd, cordwainer, was born 1572 near Wrexham, Denbighshire, Eng, and died 13 Oct 1628 in Saint Andrew, Chichester, Sussex, England. He married Alice Manning 12 Oct 1595 in Saint Pancras, Chichester, Sussex, England, daughter of John Manning. She was born about 1580 in Poling, Sussex, Eng. (all dates from the parish records found in the IGI.)
Children of William Fludd and Alice Manning are:
+ 10 i. Cecily16 Fludd, born Bef. 29 Jul 1596 in Saint Andrew, Chichester, Sussex, England; died in Henrico Co Colonial Virginia.
11 ii. Edward Fludd, cordwainer, born Bef. 27 Jul 1598 in Saint Andrew, Chichester, Sussex, England.
12 iii. William Flood, cordwainer, born Bef. 04 Jan 1599/00 in Saint Andrew, Chichester, Sussex, England.
13 iv. John Fludd, Jr. in 1636 barber, born Bef. 09 Oct 1603 in Saint Andrew, Chichester, Sussex, England; died in James City Co, VA. He married Margery Smith 03 Feb 1631/32 in Saint Andrews, Chichester, Sussex, England; born about 1610.
14 v. Thomas Fludd, born Bef. 15 Dec 1605 in Saint Andrew, Chichester, Sussex, England.
15 vi. Richard Fludd, born Bef. 25 Feb 1606/07 in Saint Andrew, Chichester, Sussex, England; died in Virginia.
There are lots of Lloyds in Wales, but each one of these individuals connects to the same location along the Shropshire, England /Denbighshire, Welsh border near Wrexham. If these are all connected, then their ancestry further back is recorded under another brother’s record:
Colonel John Flodd would be the son of Thomas, who is the son of William, who is … “son of John Lloyd of Plas y Badda, ab David Lloyd ab Deicws ab Madog ab Ithel ab Ednyfed ab Gruf- fydd ab David ab Rhys Fychan ab Rhys Grug, lord of Ystrad Tywi, second son of Gruffydd ab Rhys ab Tudwr Mawr, Prince of South Wales.” (see Archaeologia Cambrensis - Google Books)
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