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Posted by: Judy Baouab (ID *****7724) Date: November 27, 2008 at 11:26:52
In Reply to: Searching by Rob Fisk of 1986

Dates (for birth, emigration, etc.) are usually essential for genealogical research. Fisk is a common name in Sweden.

Specific locations (at least in the U.S.) are also essential. Names are seldom enough when making a request.

Do you have any idea who else emigrated from that family? Do you have any idea if he was married or single when he emigrated? Do you know names of his wife and child or children, assuming they were in Sweden and emigrated?

Helpers are severely handicapped in trying to help without those kinds of details.

At any rate, here is a possibility for Axel J. Fisk. I found this on the Emibas CD. Emibas was made from registrations in the Swedish parish to go to a foreign country. It is about 75% complete.

Post 963410

Fisk Johansson, Axel
Arbetare = worker. (married man)

b. 2/27/1876 in Grythyttan, Örebro län (Västmanland)

Emigrated 5/13/1902
from Gåsvarv 9, Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Minnesota, USA

Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 570
fisk
Emibas migration file ID: Älvdalen W 1902 060

Un-normalized versions:

Place of destination: Minnesota
Country of destination: USA

Emihamn database:

Emihamn was made from registrations with Swedish port police before leaving Sweden. (Not all Swedes left through a Swedish port.)

First name: AXEL
Last name: FISK JOHANSSON
Age: 26 Gender:
Parish: ÄLVDALEN County: W (Kopparberg)
Title/Note: SE = see JOHANSSON
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1902 05 16
Destination: VARIEN MINN
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 70:98:1804

Here is a second entry where he is listed with Johansson as a last name.

First name: AXEL
Last name: JOHANSSON FISK
Age: 26 Gender: M
Parish: ÄLVDALEN County: W
Title/Note: SE = see FISK
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1902 05 16
Destination: VARIEN MINN
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 70:98:1804


This man shared his ticket.

First name: JOHAN
Last name: ERSSON
Age: 28 Gender: M
Parish: ÄLVDALA County: W
Title/Note: KUSIN = cousin
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1902 05 16
Destination: VARIEN MINN
Fellows: JA
Source: 70:98:1804

This is the cousin's information from Emibas.

Post 963411

Ersson "Niss", Johan
Unmarried man

b. 12/7/1874 in Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)

Emigrated 5/13/1902
from Gåsvarv 9, Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Minnesota, USA

Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 570

Emibas migration file ID: Älvdalen W 1902 061

Un-normalized versions:

Place of destination: Minnesota
Country of destination: USA


1900 Swedish Census CD:

Larsson, Niss Erik       1844       Father
Ersdotter, Marit       1844       Mother
Ersson, Johan       1874       Child
(Barn), Maria       1882       Child
(Barn), Klara       1884       Child
(Barn), Marta       1886       Child
----------
Johanson Fisk, Axel       1876       Father
Ersdotter, Johanna       1879       Mother
(Barn), Helmer Emanuel       1900       Child

Record 3027342

Larsson, Niss Erik
Jordägare = landowner (mindre = lesser, smaller. I don't know what that means.)

b. 1844 in Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Man, married, father

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Älvdalen Kopparbergs län

Record 3027343

Ersdotter, Marit

b. 1844 in Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

h.= wife
Woman, married, mother

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Älvdalen Kopparbergs län

Record 3027346

Ersson, Johan

b. 1874 in Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

s.
Man, single, child

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Älvdalen Kopparbergs län


Record 3027347

Maria

b. 1882 in Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

d.
Girl, child

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Älvdalen Kopparbergs län

Record 3027344

Klara

b. 1884 in Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

d.
Girl, child

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Älvdalen Kopparbergs län

Record 3027345

Marta

b. 1886 in Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

d.
Girl, child

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Älvdalen Kopparbergs län
-----------------------------------------------------
Record 3027350

Johanson Fisk, Axel
Arbetare = worker

b. 1876 in Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

Måg = son-in-law
Man, married, father

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Grythyttan Örebro län

Record 3027349

Ersdotter, Johanna

b. 1879 in Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

h.= wife
Woman, married, mother

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Älvdalen Kopparbergs län

Record 3027348

Helmer Emanuel

b. 1900 in Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

s.
Boy, child

Gåsevarf N:o 9
Älvdalen (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)

Place of birth (original source): Älvdalen Kopparbergs län


Emibas CD again:

Johanna (Axel's wife) emigrated with her father and mother and some siblings. I don't see her child.

It is strange that the record says the father was going to Canada but the others were going to Minnesota. There may have been a misunderstanding or error.


Post 963489

Larsson "Niss", Erik
Jordbrukare = land user. (married man)

b. 11/21/1844 in Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)

Emigrated 4/14/1903
from Gåsvarv 9, Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Canada

Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 570

Emibas migration file ID: Älvdalen W 1903 004

Post 963490

Ersdotter, Marit
Hustru (married woman)

b. 2/14/1844 in Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)

Emigrated 4/14/1903
from Gåsvarv 9, Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Minnesota, USA

Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 570

Emibas migration file ID: Älvdalen W 1903 005

Un-normalized versions:

Place of destination: Minnesota
Country of destination: USA

Post 963491

Ersdotter "Niss", Maria
Dotter = daughter. (unmarried woman)

b. 8/2/1882 in Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)

Emigrated 4/14/1903
from Gåsvarv 9, Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Minnesota, USA

Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 570

Emibas migration file ID: Älvdalen W 1903 006

Un-normalized versions:

Place of destination: Minnesota
Country of destination: USA


Post 963492

Ersdotter "Niss", Klara
Dotter (unmarried woman)

b. 8/12/1884 in Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)

Emigrated 4/14/1903
from Gåsvarv 9, Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Minnesota, USA

Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 570

Emibas migration file ID: Älvdalen W 1903 007

Un-normalized versions:

Place of destination: Minnesota
Country of destination: USA
Post 963493

Ersdotter "Niss", Johanna
Dotter (married woman)

b. 5/30/1879 in Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)

Emigrated 4/14/1903
from Gåsvarv 9, Älvdalen, Kopparbergs län (Dalarna)
to Minnesota, USA

Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 570

Emibas migration file ID: Älvdalen W 1903 008

Un-normalized versions:

Place of destination: Minnesota
Country of destination: USA

Niss is a farm name, added in Dalarna province (where these people came from) to help distinguish people from others with the same name.


Emihamn database:

First name: NILS ERIK
Last name: LARSSON
Age: 58 Gender: M
Parish: ELFDALEN County: W (Kopparberg)
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1903 04 17
Destination: WINNIPEG MAN
Fellows: NEJ
Source: 72:585:1809

First name: MARIT
Last name: LARSSON
Age: 58 Gender: K
Parish: ELFDALEN County: W
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1903 04 17
Destination: WINNIPEG MAN
Fellows: JA
Source: 72:585:1809

First name: MARIA
Last name: LARSSON
Age: 22 Gender: K
Parish: ELFDALEN County: W
Title/Note: MISS
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1903 04 17
Destination: WINNIPEG MAN
Fellows: JA
Source: 72:585:1809

First name: KLARA
Last name: LARSSON
Age: 18 Gender: K
Parish: ELFDALEN County: W
Title/Note: MISS
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1903 04 17
Destination: WINNIPEG MAN
Fellows: JA
Source: 72:585:1809


First name: JOHANNA
Last name: LARSSON
Age: 23 Gender: K
Parish: ELFDALEN County: W
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1903 04 17
Destination: WINNIPEG MAN
Fellows: JA
Source: 72:585:1809

Well, that group was headed towards Winnipeg so I don't know where Johanna's husband ended up.

I don't want to spend too much time on a wild-goose chase so this is my last effort. The Axel Johansson Fisk I found is found on the 1890 Swedish Census CD.


Petersson Fisk, Johannes       1840       F
Olsdotter, Carolina       1840       M
(Barn), Carl Alfred       1871       Ch
(Barn), Anna Sofia       1873       Ch
(Barn), Axel       1876       Ch
(Barn), Hilda Axelina       1879       Ch
(Barn), Augusta Vilhelmina       1882       Ch
(Barn), Ida Maria       1886       Ch
----------
Johansson, Erik Johan       1864       F
Gustafsson, Augusta Leontina       1871       M
(Barn), Anna Evelina       1888       Ch
(Barn), Agnes Augusta       1890       Ch


Post 3697243

Petersson Fisk, Johannes
Bergsman = farmer who was a joint owner of a mine and/or a blast furnace

b. 1840 i Färnebo (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Man, married (father)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

Place of birth (original source): Fernebo


Post 3697244

Olsdotter, Carolina

b. 1840 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

h.= wife
Woman, married (mother)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte

Post 3697250

Carl Alfred

b. 1871 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

s.
Man, single (child)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte


Post 3697245

Anna Sofia

b. 1873 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

d.
Woman, single (child)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte


Post 3697249

Axel

b. 1876 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

s.
Boy (child)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

v

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte


Post 3697247

Hilda Axelina

b. 1879 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

d.
Girl (child)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

v

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte

Post 3697246

Augusta Vilhelmina

b. 1882 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

d.
Girl (child)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

v

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte

Post 3697248

Ida Maria

b. 1886 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

d.
Girl (child)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

v

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte
---------------------------------------------------
Post 3697251

Johansson, Erik Johan

b. 1864 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

gift son = married son
Man, married (father)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte



Post 3697252

Gustafsson, Augusta Leontina

b. 1871 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

h.= wife
Woman, married (mother)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte


Post 3697254

Anna Evelina

b. 1888 i Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

d.
Girl (child)

Lilla Hellsjön
Grythyttan (Örebro län, Västmanland)

v

Place of birth (original source): Grythytte

I have no idea if this could be your family based only on a name.


Judy


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