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Re: Capt. John Ventiman of Portsmouth N.H.
Posted by: Roger Fentiman (ID *****2940) Date: May 06, 2007 at 13:12:51
In Reply to: Capt. John Ventiman of Portsmouth N.H. by Amelia James of 23

Hi Amelia

This is most of what I've collected so far:

Person Sheet

Name:       Capt. John VENTEMAN
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Birth Date:       est abt 1678
Birth Place:       Portsmouth, Rockingham Co., NH, America
Birth Memo:       Portsmouth settled 1653
Occupation:       Sea Captain

Misc. Notes
Sometime Captain of sloop “Hannah & Elizabeth”
From February to July 1722 John went to Jamaica (see below)
Consulted Savage’s “Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers in New England”, 4 vols, 1860-62 (No Ventemans); Need to consult: “Licences to pass beyond seas”, PRO; “Founders of New England”, S. G. Drake, 1860; “Original lists of persons of quality, emigrants and others, who went from Great Britain to the American Plantations, 1600-1700”, J. C. Hotten, 1874
(A version of this last has yielded a George VENTIMER, aged 20, who emigrated to St Christophers & Barbados on the 2 May 1635. No other use of VENTIMER as a surname can I find, so I propose this may be a mistranscription of VENTIMEN or VENTIMAN.)

http://ushistory.org/franklin/courant/issue28.htm
“New England Courant” From Monday February 5. to Monday February 12. 1722.
Custom-House, Boston, Entered Inwards.
Samuel Northy from North Carolina
Cleared Out. John Hardison from New Hampshire, Jonathan Rowse, Thomas Copping, and George Hill for North Carolina, John Kent for Virginia, John Venteman, and John Green for West Indies, William Maxwell for Portugal.


Outward Bound. John Braddick for New York, Matthias Bant, and Robert Burnet for Barbadoes.

New England Courant From Monday July 2. to Monday July 9. 1722: Custom-House, Boston. Entered Inwards.

Joseph Jackson, John Niggs, and Samuel Beckwith from New Hampshire, James Lewis, Gersham Cobb, John Wharfe, Isaac Freeman, and Barnabas Lathrop from Connecticut, Peter Mudock, and Thomas Davis from Long- Island , Paul Starbuck and James Ferguson from North Carolina, Jonathan Bull from Virginia, William Hinder from Antigua, John Venteman from Jamaica, Samuel Broadhurst from New York, and John Hovenden from St. Lucas, Roger Dench from New Foundland, George Boutillier from Cape Francois, Ebenezer Putman from Barbadoes, and Henry Timberlake from St. Christophers.

Cleared Out.

John Flood for New Hamshire, David Yeamans for New York, Joseph Gorham, and Joseph Allen for Connecticut, Hosea Lhommedieu and Benjamin Lhommedieu for Long-Island, Richard Quick for South Carolina, Thomas Astonnn for Antigua, Nicholas Davis for Surranam, Henry Clark, Ship Patience and Judith for London.

Outward Bound.
Tomas Copping, and William Blake for North Carolina, Peter Mudock for Conneticut, Thomas Davis for Long-Island, Philip Lewis for Surranam, Robert Peate for Jamaica, Samuel Mould for West Indies.

Geneaological Dictionary of New England does not mention Venteman, but does mention the “Hannah & Elizabeth” (John Jackson, shipwright & mariner, arrives on her Aug 1679 from Dartmouth with his family). It also mentions the Greenwoods.

The Hannah & Elizabeth (listed as Hana & Eliza)

Voyages of the Hannah & Elizabeth are listed at ship name on Ship List

June 3, 1712 The Hannah & Elizabeth arrived at Boston, Massachusetts, from Fyall.

Sources:
Impost Office, Boston, Massachusetts
New England Historic Genealogical Society manuscripts
"Passengers to America", page 136 (Use browser "Bookmark" or "Back" to return to this page.)

Ship and Passenger Information:

Type: Sloop

William Partridge, Commander

Mariners, names not listed
No other passengers

Source: NJ-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: NJA Vol 11 pp 41-50
Custom House, Salem, April 9. Entered Inwards
James FORSTER, sloop Beginning, and William CATTS,
sloop Fisher, from North Carolina.
Outward Bound. John VENTEMAN, Brigantine
Success for Bilboa. --- The American Weekly Mercury,
April 28th, 1720.

http://www.pcez.com/~bigshoe/du/Stub/stubbs.html
“.."Among ye passengers that came in ye shipe Hannah & Elizabeth, New England Historic-Genealogical Register, Vol. 28.29 which arrived at Boston on November 4, 1679, there were seven members of a family named Manning, described as from St. Patricks Parish, Darthmouth, England. With the exception of (1202) Dennis of Nantucket, I am unable to find any authority for saying that these Mannings were Irish, because there are English as well as Irish families of the name. The Irish Mannings originally were OMao-ineins, but in course of time the name was anglicised Mannin, Manion and Manning, and their coat of arms bears a triple three-leaf Shamrock."

-- Franklin-Rogers Family Tree c/o Debbie Krauss commhousemom@hotmail.com http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2624402&id=I544157710 This researcher gave a "figure of merit" for the names in the Dennis Manning line, based on LDS Manning listings during the 1645-1685 time period, and came up with the following counties of residence:

Devonshire 184; Suffolk 106; Essex 68; Sussex 64; Gloucester, Northants 57 each; London 55; others less than 50 each.

According to name distribution, Devonshire is the most likely place of origin for Dennis. Since the Hannah & Elizabeth originated there, it is quite possible that Dennis is related to the families that came on that ship.”


Spouses
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1:       Elizabeth SMITH
Birth Date:       1680
Death Date:       14 Feb 1710 Age: 30
Marr Date:       13 Jul 1699
Marr Place:       Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Marr Memo:       Cotton Mather presiding
Children:       Mary (1700-<1706)
       Elizabeth (1703-1793)
       Mary (1706-)

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2:       Mary REED
Birth Date:       est abt 1687
Marr Date:       9 Nov 1710
Marr Place:       Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Marr Memo:       Ebenezer Pemberton presiding
Children:       John (1712-)

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Last Modified:       10 Dec 2006
Created:       6 May 2007
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Regards

Roger


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