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Thanks for the info. I'll have to check out the books
[Foster, Pedigrees of the County Families of Yorkshire, Vol. I; also carefully, see Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry (1855), pp. 372-3].
Would they be on line? It's the only way that I can see them, if so do you have a link?
With such a large family we should have interesting relatives and ancestors, interesting stuff for table talk, but of course none of this really does rub off on us, or elevates us above anyone else. Kind of like this talk of "nobility" when the Normans were merely home invaders, armed and organized bandits, and Duke William was running around southern England destroying homes, fields and slaughtering people before the fateful encounter at Hastings.
Then when the sons of Algar king of Mercia (Edwin and Morcar) and the populace revolted at the heavy handed treatment and taxation inflicted by William, he sent his army into the midlands and 300,000 English died of sword and famine, it was so bad that they dead lay by the way side as food for the ravens. It was then that William took the land and people that was held by Edwin and bestowed it to Henricus des Ferreriis, his Capt of Horse, at the Honors of Tutbury.
Sorry for being so abrupt but I take these famous connections, at face value. I don't believe in hereditary nobility, because if I did I would also have to believe in hereditary ignobility. People celebrate their famous ancestors but ignore, or hide, their infamouos.
My ancestry may have been rich and famous and "noble", but by the middle of the 19th Century, it was dirt farmers and lumberjacks scratching a living out of the earth and it has taken over 150 years for the family, at least my line, to crawl out of the hole, and it is still crawling.
I did tell you didn't I, that odds are that I have the exact same Y DNA as Councillor William, and probably even Henry Ferror of Ewood.
I say this because I share the same Y 37 markers with a James Farrar, who, like myself, is descended from Maj William Farrar III, 1657, grandson of Councillor Wm.
Meaning that our particular DNA is the modal for the Farrar Island Family and has not mutated.
That and $4 will get me a coffee at Starbucks.
This stuff does not rub off on us, famous or infamous, each of us is a unique individual and our accomplishments are or on, famous ancestors do nothing for fiscal, physical or emotional health or well being.
Despite our delusions otherwise, I am not my parents, and my children are not me..however biological and cultural DNA is passed down and carries with it characteristics and traits that, although are not determinative (I don't believe in that stuff), are never the less influential in our physical and mental state and capabilities.
Things such as a propensity for certain diseases, longevitity, obesity, body type, personality, native intelligence and other characteristics are passed down via these biological and culturl genes, but like all genetic material.. I am more than a Farrar just like you are more than a Ravilous. Farrar is only 1 small part of the entity who types these words. I am also Markland, Connelly, Weller, Schumann, Whitehead, Sanders, Webb, Bass, Yancey, Tubb, Sanders, Lansford, Baugh, Piggott, Perrin, Banks and who knows what else.. All of that DNA, biological and cultural, have come together to make me.. Out of many one..E Pluribus Unum as a matter of fact.
I apologize for the lecture, it's also genetic, the Farrar teacher preacher gene. :)
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