Martin, My hubby also comes thru Thomas P.: John W., Charles Wesley, Delia Alma Faith Jupin, Ronald Wade Jupin. Wade from Dr. Wade Shacklette, who was a family friend and physician. Betty Frakes O'Dea has put together a family history, too. Like our own file, there are differences between hers, Bertie Detrich's and ours but, everybody has added and extended it and we are having a ball working on it. AND, still have many unanswered questions.