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Hello Hilda,
The Church of England parish registers for Ashby De La Zouch have been filmed by the Latter Day Saints (LDS) back to the year 1563. Some years for these registers appear to be missing, but the years you noted for the births of your Rose and Sharpe families have been filmed.
The christening entries for Samuel Rose and Rebecca Sharpe may at least tell you the names of their fathers. If the names of their fathers are listed in the christening records, you can then search for the marriages of these fathers in the registers to see if you can determine who they had married.
Below is information showing which years the Ashby De La Zouch Church of England registers have been filmed, accompanied by the LDS film number on which the registers can be found:
Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872
Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
Baptisms, marriages, burials, 1632, [4 documents, no dates], 1622, 1621, 1616, 1614, 1613, 1612, 1607, 1608, 1606, 1605, 1604, 1574-1575, 1563, [1 document, no date], 1634, 1637, 1638, 1611 (marriages only), 1639, 1672, 1613, 1674-1676, 1578, 1679-1686, 1690-1692, 1694-1699, 1701-1702, 1704, 1708, 1711-1715, 1719-1720, 1716-1717, 1721-1723, 1726, 1724, 1728-1730, 1732-1755, 1757-1766, 1768-1781, 1783-1812, 1814-1826; Baptisms, 1827
FHL BRITISH Film 585295
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To search the parish registers for Ashby De La Zouch, order LDS microfilm number 585295 from your local Family History Centre.
Concerning this film, I located the the christening indexes of five children of Samuel Rose and Rebecca (including Elizabeth), though no maiden name is provided for Rebecca in the indexes. But, I believe the Rebecca noted is Rebecca Sharpe, though I can't be sure.
As you will see, each of the indexes is sourced with LDS microfilm number 585295. In addition, you will see two christening indexes for a Samuel Wilson Rose, one for 1794 and the other for 1798. I believe the first Samuel Wilson Rose died as an infant or young child, and that Samuel and Rebecca gave another son, born in 1798, the same name.
Please see below:
SAMUEL WILSON ROSE
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 OCT 1794 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL ROSE
Mother: REBECCA
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C064502
Dates: 1563 - 1827
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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ELISABETH ROSE
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 DEC 1796 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL ROSE
Mother: REBECCA
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C064502
Dates: 1563 - 1827
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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SAMUEL WILSON ROSE
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 JUN 1798 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL ROSE
Mother: REBECCA
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C064502
Dates: 1563 - 1827
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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MARY ROSE
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 MAR 1801 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL ROSE
Mother: REBECCA
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C064502
Dates: 1563 - 1827
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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REBECCA ROSE
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 NOV 1802 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL ROSE
Mother: REBECCA
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C064502
Dates: 1563 - 1827
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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I also found a 1793 marriage index for Samuel Rose and Rebecca Sharpe. This index however, was submitted to the LDS by a member of the LDS, but does not contain film number 0585295. The date of the marriage is provided in the index, which shows that Samuel and Elizabeth were married in the Ashby De La Zouch Church of England on 11 November 1793.
Please see below;
SAMUEL ROSE
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: REBECCA SHARPE
Marriage: 11 NOV 1793 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.
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If you order microfilm number 0585295 you can check for this marriage in the Ashby De La Zouch Church of England registers.
I looked for an LDS sourced christening record for Samuel Rose born circa 1765, but did not find one, though I did find the christening index for Rebecca
Sharpe, noting that her father was William. This index with source information is below:
REBECCAH SHARP
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 NOV 1772 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WM SHARP
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C064502
Dates: 1563 - 1827
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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I also found a marriage record index for a William Sharp and Eliza Davenport. The index shows the marriage occurred in the Ashby De La Zouch Church of England on 20 April 1758. The marriage record, like the christening record for Rebecca Sharp above and the christenings for the Rose children before that, can be found on LDS microfilm number 0585295 for the Ashby De La Zouch Church of England.
The marriage index follows:
WM. SHARP
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZ. DAVENPORT
Marriage: 20 APR 1758 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: M064502
Dates: 1754 - 1813
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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I also located other christenings for Sharp children whose father was WM, but whose mother's name is not mentioned. I believe the following were the siblings of Rebecca's, though I can't prove it. I've also included Rebecca's christening index again so that you can see the chronology of the events:
WM SHARP
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 DEC 1759 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WM SHARP
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: M064502
Dates: 1754 - 1813
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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JOSEPH SHARP
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 DEC 1764 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WM SHARP
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: M064502
Dates: 1754 - 1813
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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JOHN SHARP
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 04 SEP 1768 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WM SHARP
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: M064502
Dates: 1754 - 1813
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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MARY SHARP
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 AUG 1770 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WM SHARP
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: M064502
Dates: 1754 - 1813
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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REBECCAH SHARP
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 01 NOV 1772 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WM SHARP
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: C064502
Dates: 1563 - 1827
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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ELISABETH SHARPE
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 NOV 1775 Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England
Death:
Burial:
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM SHARPE
Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: M064502
Dates: 1754 - 1813
Film Number: 0585295 = Bishop's transcripts, 1563-1872: Church of England. Parish Church of Ashby-de-la-Zouch (Leicestershire)
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More children of William Sharp than noted above may have been born and christened in the Ashby-de-la-Zouch Church of England, as the LDS have not placed all their church indexes online.
Concerning Elizabeth Rose, daughter of Samuel Rose and Rebecca Sharpe, I found an index of her marriage to William Hallam. The index shows the marriage took place on 15 January 1818 in the Whitwick Church of England. I am not familiar with the churches in Leicestershire, but I believe this may be a different parish than St. Margaret's you mentioned in your query to the GenForum. Perhaps the marriage was recorded in both the Whitwick Parish as well as in the Parish of St. Margaret's.
Please see below:
ELIZABETH ROSE
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: WILLM. HALLAM
Marriage: 15 JAN 1818 Whitwick, Leicester, England
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: M047041
Dates: 1604-1854
Film Number: 0596077 = Bishop's transcripts, 1604-1854: Church of England. Parish Church of Whitwick.
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Information and film number for the Bishop's Transcripts covering marriages in St. Margaret's Church of England for 1818 follow, if you would like to make a comparison between the information concerning marriage entries on each film for the two different parish churches:
Film Number: 1656180 = Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1815-1825: Bishop's transcripts, Church of England. St. Margaret's Church (Leicester, Leicestershire)
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I next found an 1841 census for a William and Elizabeth Hallam and six children, living in Thringstone, Civil Parish of Whitwick, Leistershire.
The census shows they were living in a place called St. George Chapelry in Thringstone.
I believe the Elizabeth in this census may refer to the Elizabeth Rose that William Hallam had married in 1818. Their oldest child William, is shown to have been born 20 years earlier, placing his birth in 1821.
Unlike future census returns, the 1841 census only notes if a person were born in or out of the county, and not the town or parish of birth.
This census was found at the Origins.net subscription website, but can also be seen on the Ancestry.com UK Collection, which is also by subscription.
The census follows:
County LEICESTERSHIRE
Superintendent Registrar's District ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH
Registrar's District WHITWICK
Enumeration District No 9
Parish WHITWICK
City
Township THRINGSTONE
Place ST GEORGE CHAPELRY
Household Number 2463
Last Name, First Name, Sex, Age, Occupation, Birth County, Place, Township, City Parish, County,
HALLAM, WILLIAM, M, 45, BUILDER, LEICESTERSHIRE, ST GEORGE CHAPELRY, THRINGSTONE, WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE
HALLAM, ELIZABETH, F, 45, LEICESTERSHIRE, ST GEORGE CHAPELRY, THRINGSTONE, WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE
HALLAM, WILLIAM, M, 20, CARPENTER, LEICESTERSHIRE, ST GEORGE CHAPELRY, THRINGSTONE, WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE
HALLAM, MARY, F, 15, LEICESTERSHIRE, ST GEORGE CHAPELRY, THRINGSTONE, WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE
HALLAM, ELIZABETH, F, 14, LEICESTERSHIRE, ST GEORGE CHAPELRY, THRINGSTONE, WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE
HALLAM, RICHARD, M, 12, LEICESTERSHIRE, ST GEORGE CHAPELRY, THRINGSTONE, WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE
HALLAM, CHARLOTTE, F, 9, LEICESTERSHIRE, ST GEORGE CHAPELRY, THRINGSTONE, WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE
HALLAM, THRESSA, F, 8, LEICESTERSHIRE, ST GEORGE CHAPELRY, THRINGSTONE, WHITWICK, LEICESTERSHIRE
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Best Wishes Hilda.
Dave Boylan
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