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Re: family crest
Posted by: Naomi (ID *****0451) Date: November 27, 2005 at 17:11:00
In Reply to: Re: family crest by James Ellis of 11951

Hi, just thought I would give you a heads up as this is my family crest, and have known the meaning for some time, as my younger brother and I have just done a very extensive family tree dating back to the 1780's.... non haec sine numine actually means....not this without the daity ...(not this without the divinity/beleif/god). Ellis family is also a sept of The MacPherson family and are able to use thier crest also which dates back even further, the MacPherson crest is of a cat, and meaning "touch not the cat but with a glove"

Latin translation and meaning.
non N 9 8 X X M
Non., abb. N M [XXXCX]
not, by no means, no; [non modo ... sed etiam => not only ... but also];

h.aec PRON 3 1 NOM S F
h.aec PRON 3 1 NOM P N
hic, haec, hoc PRON [XXXAX]
this; these (pl.); (also DEMONST);

sin.e N 2 1 VOC S M
sin.e N 2 2 NOM P N
sin.e N 2 2 ACC P N
sin.e V 3 1 PRES ACTIVE IMP 2 S
sino, sinere, sivi, situs V [XXXAX]
allow, permit;
without; (sometines after object); lack; (Johannis sine Terra => John Lackland)

numin.e N 3 2 LOC S N
numin.e N 3 2 DAT S N Early
numin.e N 3 2 ABL S N
numen, numinis N N [XXXAX]
divine will, divinity; god;

The 5 cresents are white moons and it is believed to be the moons of season, belief / empowerment - not sure if the moon meaning is true or acurate as yet but will keep you posted when I find out.

For person/s chasing the latin meaning of thier family crest's I found a great site for translation...
just go to the site and enter the latin words.

Hope this helps, Naomi Ellis

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