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Re: Pre-Norman Eatons?
Posted by: Nathaniel Eaton (ID *****4397) Date: September 24, 2009 at 19:07:59
In Reply to: Re: Pre-Norman Eatons? by Joe Cochoit of 7863

Alan Garner expressed this subject of Cheshire Eatons best in post 4359. So it pretty much finishes for me for now with Alan's statment:

"The Pulfords were also the Orrebies (Williamson's "Vill. Cest. & Fines", p.2.), and thence the Eatons, by the marriage of Richard de Pulford, brother of Herbert de Orreby, to Sybil de Eton, coheir with her brothers to William de Eton, lord of Eton (called "son of William" in Harl. MSS. 2011: and alive in 1153; which is too close to the heraldic boundary for comfortable facts to be assumed.) Yet, although it is impossible to be certain, it is also unlikely that so many families sharing the same basic cross patonce Coat (e.g. Pulford, Stapleford, Orreby, Malpas, Eaton, Boydell et al.)would not be blood linked. It does not make sense that they would hand out so much power and land to vassals.

"I still think that the best way to understand the significance of 'Eaton' is to look at it as a distinguishing label for a sept or clan within a homogeneous group that had NO one unifying name. We have to make the brain-straining effort to try to think with a medieval, not a modern, mind.

"And one last frightener. The concept of "history" is relatively modern. In the medieval period, history and fable were not separate; simply because they were not thought to be different.

"To add a link from Joe de Stapleford to the Siege of Troy or to the brilliant imaginings of the Celtic myth-making mind would have been a convenient way to claim a decent lineage, nothing more. There was no concept of the claim's being either "true" or "untrue". It was the emotional impact that mattered. To wander credulously down any of those roads now is something not to be advised."

It's interesting to know the players, the strategy, the location, the connected families. It would be interesting to know which Eaton lines, if any, survived from the times of Eaton ownership of Eaton Hall, at Eaton, Cheshire. I accept it for what it is, but I may research further into it at a convenient time.

Good wishes,
Nate Eaton


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