Re: Deacon John Dunham ancestry
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Re: Deacon John Dunham ancestry
9/24/99
Just read both articles today and thought I would post a quick overview of both as they raise some very interesting points with source infomation.
The first article is one appearing in The American Genealogist in 1996, "The English Origin and First Marriage of Deacon John Dunham of Plymouth, Massachusetts", Robert Leigh Ward, TAG 71 (1996):130-33.Here the author discusses the source of F. G. Emmison, ed. Bedfordshire Parish Registers, 21(Bedford, 1940):B34 which documents a marriage of John Dunham and Susan Kaino in August 17, 1612, Clophill, Bedfordshire, England.The article notes the common shorting of christian names common in the Bedfordshire Parish Registers.
The first article is one appearing in The American Genealogist in 1996, "The English Origin and First Marriage of Deacon John Dunham of Plymouth, Massachusetts", Robert Leigh Ward, TAG 71 (1996):130-33.Here the author discusses the source of F. G. Emmison, ed. Bedfordshire Parish Registers, 21(Bedford, 1940):B34 which documents a marriage of John Dunham and Susan Kaino in August 17, 1612, Clophill, Bedfordshire, England.The article notes the common shorting of christian names common in the Bedfordshire Parish Registers.Also sourced is the birth of John Dunham, son of John Dunham and Susan Kaino, February 19, 1614/15 in Henlow, Bedfordshire, England.This source is cited as F. G. Emmison, ed. Bedfordshire Parish Registers, 21(Bedford, 1942):A6.
Also sourced is the birth of John Dunham, son of John Dunham and Susan Kaino, February 19, 1614/15 in Henlow, Bedfordshire, England.This source is cited as F. G. Emmison, ed. Bedfordshire Parish Registers, 21(Bedford, 1942):A6.The author makes the point that these dates match those commonly accepted for the individuals involved.
The author makes the point that these dates match those commonly accepted for the individuals involved.Finally, the article proposes that Richard Dunham, not Thomas Dunham, son of Ralph Dunham, is the father of Deacon John Dunham.He cites the will of Richard Dunham, who lived very near Bedfordshire, which leaves his good shirt and some money to his son John upon his return.He died during the time Deacon John Dunham was in Leyden, Holland.
Finally, the article proposes that Richard Dunham, not Thomas Dunham, son of Ralph Dunham, is the father of Deacon John Dunham.He cites the will of Richard Dunham, who lived very near Bedfordshire, which leaves his good shirt and some money to his son John upon his return.He died during the time Deacon John Dunham was in Leyden, Holland.The second article, "The Fraudulent Ancestry of Deacon John Dunham of Plymouth", Paul C. Reed,TAG 73 (1998):101--104, cites the above work and makes the following notes which are sourced.
The second article, "The Fraudulent Ancestry of Deacon John Dunham of Plymouth", Paul C. Reed,TAG 73 (1998):101--104, cites the above work and makes the following notes which are sourced.Ralph Dunham was in fact Ralph Denman, had a different parentage and family and his wife Elizabeth Wentworth, was no daughter of Lord Wentworth of Nettlested, but of Thomas Wentworth, esquire, of Wentorth Woodhouse - Simon Payling, Political Society in Lancastrian England: The Greater Gentry in Nottinghamshire (Oxford, 1991), 53.
Ralph Dunham was in fact Ralph Denman, had a different parentage and family and his wife Elizabeth Wentworth, was no daughter of Lord Wentworth of Nettlested, but of Thomas Wentworth, esquire, of Wentorth Woodhouse - Simon Payling, Political Society in Lancastrian England: The Greater Gentry in Nottinghamshire (Oxford, 1991), 53.Sir John Dunham left at this death four surviving daughters as his heirs as his son (John Dunham, proposed to have been the father of Ralph Dunham by Isaac Watson Dunham) had predeceased him.Theinquisition "post mortem" of Edmond Hunt, taken on 23 March 1538/39, found he held the manor of Normanton of Katherine, Anne, Maria and Francis Dunham, "daughters and heirs of Sir John Dunham, knight, deceased, as of his manor of Kyrtlyngton, which now is in the King's hands by reason of the minority of the daughters."
Sir John Dunham left at this death four surviving daughters as his heirs as his son (John Dunham, proposed to have been the father of Ralph Dunham by Isaac Watson Dunham) had predeceased him.Theinquisition "post mortem" of Edmond Hunt, taken on 23 March 1538/39, found he held the manor of Normanton of Katherine, Anne, Maria and Francis Dunham, "daughters and heirs of Sir John Dunham, knight, deceased, as of his manor of Kyrtlyngton, which now is in the King's hands by reason of the minority of the daughters."The article states, and I quote, "The purported descent from royalty originated in Isaac Watson Dunham's dunham Genealogy (Hartford, 1907).The author was then about eighty, so the fraudulent account of the Dunhams of Scrooby was probably not his invention, by imposed upon him by researchers of questionable repute.It looks very much the sort of theing Gustave Anjou - then in his heyday - would have produced."For those not familiar with Gustave Anjou, he is noted (and quite notarious) as having created an number of fradulant genealogies.
The article states, and I quote, "The purported descent from royalty originated in Isaac Watson Dunham's dunham Genealogy (Hartford, 1907).The author was then about eighty, so the fraudulent account of the Dunhams of Scrooby was probably not his invention, by imposed upon him by researchers of questionable repute.It looks very much the sort of theing Gustave Anjou - then in his heyday - would have produced."For those not familiar with Gustave Anjou, he is noted (and quite notarious) as having created an number of fradulant genealogies.In sumation, both articles indicate that much additional, documented research is needed to prove the line.Like most decendants of Deacon John Dunham, this info shoots a hole in my family tree prior to Deacon John.But since Isaac Watson Dunham's book, of which I have an original copy, is often poorly sourced or sourcing is non existant, the documentation of source material cannot be ignored.
In sumation, both articles indicate that much additional, documented research is needed to prove the line.Like most decendants of Deacon John Dunham, this info shoots a hole in my family tree prior to Deacon John.But since Isaac Watson Dunham's book, of which I have an original copy, is often poorly sourced or sourcing is non existant, the documentation of source material cannot be ignored.Dan DunhamMore Replies:
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Re: Deacon John Dunham ancestry
Karen Cassell 11/27/99