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Re: STEPHEN DONNELLY USN 1898 NEED INFO
Posted by: Edward Donnell (ID *****4897) Date: April 24, 2008 at 06:30:29
In Reply to: Re: STEPHEN DONNELLY USN 1898 NEED INFO by phyllis phillips of 2187

Phyllis;

the reason I give so little informatiion, is because that is all the information I have.

I don't think I ever said he came from Ireland? maybe his folks did? yo know what "Assume" does o people right?!

as to alot in the 1900 census, best guess would be from NY area, being he's serving in the navy on the east coast, but thats not always certain back then, could be philly or Baltimore or even Norfolk va areas. ( I assume nothing!)

Do you find any who's occupation is as a us navy sailor? , not merchant sailor (they did make a distinction ).


All I know is that his name was Stephen Donnelly and he was in the US navy in 1898. He was stationed on board the cruiser ACR-3 Brooklyn, fought at the battle of Santiago and was at the funeral of one Chief Yeoman George H Ellis ( no, not irish either) in Brooklyn in late Nov 1898. (thats why I'm looking for info on him, and thats a whole different long story).

I believe he was a petty officer (n0n-commisioned officer), I have since got a copy of the entire crew of that ship during the battle, he is listed on it, but it's just a roll call list for afterr battle action report, no other information.

but sailors are hardest to find of all occupations in cnsus records, reson being, if assigned to a ship, that is where they are listed, no state of record given, also, they could be transient in one form of the other.

Another very common factor for sailors, was to enlist under another name, this was actually very common for all sailors, and actually started by the Union goverment i nthe civil war to rapidly enlist newly arriving immigrants to fight in the civil war (take an oath to serve the union, get a uniform, and instant citizenship!) either merchant or in the us navy, reasons where many.

most was because they had jumped" ship, but sometimes for crimes, or civil matters. no ssn#, no photo Ids, no one carried a birth certificate, and many entered the US and became "native americans" ( which until recently ment born i the USA on census and toher records), buy just joining the US navy at a foriegn port, and "saying" they where Us born citizens from any random state they chose few sailors went through immigration, they served in the Navy, and just became instand citizens via a name change and a false statement on where born, no one checked anyting, because there was nothing to check! very common for the time.

Not a clue on his origins,parents etc, thats why i'm asking. who knows, some donnelly out there might say they had a realtive who wa in the navy and founght in the Spanish American war, and thats all they know except maybe when they died, I got alot of info like that in replies, and thats fine, sometimes you don't get mcuh.

Don't know anything prior to the war or what happened to him after the war (100% sure he survived the war since only 10 sailors died in the war, and he's not one of the 10!, and he's at a funeral 4 months after the war for a re-burial of a fellow crew member)

Relax, I could have asked for a John smith, and not even given an occupation (been there done that).

If you can't help, thats fine, just move along, some times you just can't get answers, and thats fine, life goes on.



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