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Re: Thomas Dalzell- Ontario, Canada 1856
Posted by: Brian Bailey (ID *****0263) Date: November 11, 2008 at 06:12:30
In Reply to: Re: Thomas Dalzell- Ontario, Canada 1856 by Aaron Clements of 286

It looks like there is at least a little more I can put forward to assist in your search - plus letting you know the fact that others in the DALZELL GenForum are looking for siblings of THOMAS who moved to the U.S. Check them out!

I answered one of them with the following, which may be of interest to you as well:

If you check with entry http://genforum.genealogy.com/dalzell/messages/265.html
you will find that a WILLIAM DALZELL was born about 1858 (according to Ontario Census of 1871) to THOMAS DALZELL (b.c. 1828) and his wife ANN MARIE (or MARY ANN - both appear interchangeably) BENSON (daughter of SAMUEL BENSON, said to be from Portadown, Armagh, Ireland ).

Following this further to http://www.yclc.ca/indexzc.html you will see a picture of THOMAS and MARY ANN, and a picture of her brother, WILLIAM BENSON who m. MARY JANE MAGEE, daughter of JOHN MAGEE and JANE WOOLSEY (b.c. 1780 d. 1874).

JANE WOOLSEY was the daughter of LORD WOOLSEY of Portadown, and JOHN MAGEE was apparently a coachman who worked for her father. JOHN's parents were said to be GEORGE MAGEE and ELIZABETH TOTTON (or Totten).

The connection and intermarriage of the MAGEE, BENSON and DALZELL families continued after they came to Canada, first to the BOYD's SETTLEMENT area of Lanark County, Ontario, and later to Listowell in western Ontario, where many are buried in the Derry Add Cemetery (interstingly enough Derryadd was/is a townland just north of Portadown. These folks were likely Free Presbyterians living in the Church of Ireland parish of Drumcree - and this means that they were, in the end, Scottish stock who had arrived there in the hundred or so years before they left for Canada.

You may think that the informal and at times formal links among these families is of little account, but I tend to believe otherwise. THOMAS DALZELL who brought his family to Lanark County may or may not have come from Portadown, but a search of the records does show a BENSON family there in the correct period, a MAGEE family there in the correct period, a TOTTON family there in the correct period, and an aristocratic WOOLSEY family there in the right period who had an estate called Clowna or Clonagh.

THOMAS DALZELL's daughter, ELIZABETH married WILLIAM MAGEE (1813-1853), son of JOHN and JANE (WOOLSEY) MAGEE in Perth, Ontario in 1834. WILLIAM is interred at Boyd's Methodist Cemetery at Boyd's Settlement, sharing the same tombstone with one ELIZABETH MAGEE (1756-1843), the mother of ELIZABETH MAGEE (or McGEE) who married JAMES M'CREERY, who located next to THOMAS DALZELL in Lanark County in 1823.

JAMES M'CREERY (my ancestor) probably DID NOT come from Portadown, as the M'CREERY family seemed to be established at Mullaghbrack/Loughgilly, near Markethill, or alternatively in the Keady/Derrynoose/Tynans area, some seven miles to the west. Both of these areas also had DALZELL families at the time of the Flaxgrowers Census in 1796.

But there is an interesting side story to the M'CREERY emigration to Canada. ELIZABETH M'CREERY wife of JAMES was most definitely the aunt of Canadian Father of Confederation, THOMAS D'ARCY McGEE. D'arcy visited them several times at Boyd's Settlement and did legal work for them. I try to figure the connection between the Catholic McGee family and the Protestant Magee family on my web site, but it remains, to this day, an unsolved mystery. In the midst of this is a connection between this family and your DALZELLs. Thus, every little bit of research has the possibility of clarifying a story which leads us ever closer to knowing our ancestors-in-common.

Finally, and perhaps reaching a little far as one may do looking for connections, a JOSEPH WOOLSEY b.c. 1785 in the Parish of Drumcree (ie. Portadown) emigrated to Canada in 1819 with his wife MARGARET and children, settling Goulbourn Twp. near Bytown (Ottawa). Children: ROBERT WOOLSEY was born in 1807 at Drumgoose, north of Portadown m. (1833) FRANCIS (FANNY) MOONEY, WILLIAM WOOLSEY b. Portadown 1810, RACHEL WOOLSEY b. 1813 at Drumcree Parish, MARY WOOLSEY b. 1816 at Derrymattry (also near Portadown)and JOSEPH b. 1819, and SARAH JANE (no details). By the Irish Naming Pattern of naming children after their grandfathers and grandmothers, and then after their parents, JOSEPH WOOLSEY's father was very likely named either WILLIAM or ROBERT.

This may or may not suggest a father's name for JANE WOOLSEY b.c. 1780 - who m. JOHN MAGEE.

Good luck on your search, and let me know what you find!




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