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Re: Startling New Sire/Acadia Information: re; Louis Sire
Posted by: v. suzanne sears (ID *****1949) Date: September 10, 2011 at 18:19:51
In Reply to: Startling New Sire/Acadia Information: re; Louis Sire by v. suzanne sears of 2273

Two things:

I shouldnt type late at night;
forgive my obvious spelling and grammatical errors above


Its an easy mistake to make: reading that list of marriages:

One would need to know the pattern always used:

Listing the Groom, Parents:
then where the groom was from and where the parents were from

and then doing the same for the bride

French grammar didnt follow the same sequence it does today:

where we would say: Louis then his residence then the parents and their residence

So its natural to think that the residence posted in the order it appears is for the parents
until you see the extra bit: from elsewhere

Its not like the rest of the Acadians didnt know where they were from....this elsewhere was not some magical place

They were just not members of this particular Mines parish
thats their elsewhere status
but they are easily identified as Acadians....

Only this very unique standing of Louis:
not being a member of an Acadian church
required clarification and a defininite parish mentioned that was outside of Acadia

I havent seen the entire document or the other pages of the other weddings.....

perhaps many of them also identify specific geographies for persons not belonging to Acadian parishes.

If Louis was from Dunkirk
and say his parents were from Rouen

then that would be said easily enough as well:

No his parents were just from elsewhere in Acadia
like all the other parents not identified as from Mines

Its also easy to see the priests frustration:
its not like every Acadian settlement had a church at the time
or even had a name......
nor did everyone live in a village

Where he could put a "tag" on their parish and geography

just: they were from "around here" is the message.

But we know from history that these others were living in and from the elsewhere doesnt mean a foreign country: ......just elsewhere in Acadia

its not like his parents made the boat trip for the wedding over to a remote corner of Acadia
like Mines

This was a month long journey of incredible expense: to just sail on over for a wedding

One thing during this search I have been struck by as Mickey Cyr does her research
is that she often complained there are too many Cyrs to fit the number of ancestors we actually have

We attribute some of that to the post Revolution Americans who took up our spelling of Cyr in a reverse Sears to Cyrs evolution.

But: we still have just a few too many ancestral Cyrs from the 1700s to fit neatly into the known Cyr ancestors.

Maybe this explains some of it?

Maybe some of our Cyrs had what were called "natural" marriages as well

This was a known practice in Quebec......just cant say much has written about for Acadia

the practice of having children via a well as a legal wife......

The only thing we do know is that it was very common to add children to homes who werent your own who took the family last name.

We have Native DNA in the Pierre lineage as well: but not the same Haplotype as this Louis one.

DNA will tell this story sooner or later.

Please encourage anyone you know with links to the Louis Cyr lineage to test

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