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Just a footnote on this DNA apparently originating in Munster Of all the DNA samples in the world that bear Pierres unique or similar signature: 75% are located here 13% are in Scotland 11% in England 2% in Europe Its hard to dismiss the origins based upon these percentages: even if we do know there arent enough European samples to compare with yet This establishes a From Munster origin: spreading backwards into Britain and Europe Of the Irish ones; 26% are in Clare County 23% are in Tipperary 16% arein Limmerick Therefore 65% of the 75% globally all them are located on the extreme west coast of Southern Ireland....... Limmerick shows 16% Cork shows 14%........showing the spreading out pattern from the west coast inwards In term of northern Ireland: it is miniscule.......2% Now either this is some kind of genetic dead end......thus the clustering.....and it came from somewhere else.. or this is some kind of morphing into a near separate genetic species: more or less.....due to isolation The trouble we have is that there simply isnt a pool of this DNA anywhere else in the world significant to point to an origin Certainly the first 12 tribal markers indicate an Alps and outward origin...... and it is stronger north to Belgium than south to Iberia.... But what it looks like is a very small ancient few individuals.........from somewhere in Europe or the Mediterranean.........who landed there and prospered. This gene profile is identifiable around the year 1000AD as distinct from other Irish groups....... History says these people were there from at least 500AD...if not sooner. The sheer luck that so many migrated to North American is responsible for us being able to identify this cluster at all.....as it is otherwise insignificant in global DNA profiles.....perhaps no more than 4% of all known samples.... and even that number is bumped up simply because this group is overrepresented in the data banks. It is clear this DNA pattern existed before Viking raids in the region: but it is not out of the question that enslavement or voluntary service to Vikings spread the pattern into other Viking settlements in northern Europe. All these persons are said to be Dal Cassian from this region: or descended from Cas: 347AD Dal Cassian family names are: MacArthur Boland O Bryan Brennan Casey **** as in Roger Casey to Acadia Considine M Cormacan..McCann Cosgrave McGrath Curry Glyn Hearne Hogan Hurley Hearly Kelleher Kennedy Magan McMahon Meara Downey Noonan Power Quirk Regan Scanlon Seasnain Twomey and Butler Hart Cannon Kelly Lynch MacNamara Welch Wright Bresnan Corbett Forbes Johnson Mc Connell Halloran Ryan West Crowe The O Bryans being direct from Brian Boru.....the others through brother and cousin lineages Pierre is a best match with O Bryan, and Butler however the trick here: is that through marriage: and O Bryan married a Butler woman and took the last name so it is no surprise that Pierre is a genetic match to both.... this was Morgan O Brian in 1690 in Ballyphillip Limerick Thus we know genetic kin to Pierre was living in the 1500s in Limerick....but this seems to be a rather limited DNA lineage of the O Bryans.......most were slightly different in signature........ as this particular DNA lineage entered the Peerage.....and were somewhat supportive of England....These were from the first Earls of thormond: In order for Pierre to match DNA both names:.....he had to be of the seed of the intermingling of the Butlers and O Bryans..... Being a member of the British Peerage family of O Bryans would explain a movement of the DNA into France as this lineage was known to have done this.......taking Sir as a title: which was a very non Irish thing to do.... We shall see if further DNA testing bears out this theory By the way: of the forgotten Hayes.........Pierre still is an excellent match to this family: but no one knows where Abraham Hayes of Fairfield Conneticut actually came from: thus I have not chased it further at this time.......but the likelihood he is an Irish Hayes......given what we otherwise know. Notify Administrator about this message?
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