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As Pierre is a near perfect DNA match to the De Veres of Normandy and Brittany:
There are a few competing stories of the De Vere lineages:
The most authoritative ones seem to show this:
Raymond de Vere c.730 AD Loire, Anjou:
(aka Raymond de Verrieres: aka Ver en Forez
Lord of Pictavia and Ajou
(Pictavia being the Picts of Scotland: there were Picts living in the Loire Valley, regions of Poitou as well)
He carried the Druid Blue Boar on his shield and was 100% Celt.
His lineage came from the Ver Kings of the Danann tribe that invaded Ireland supposedly around 2300 or so BCE.........said to have arrived from Sythia by ship:
(we would now call this Kazakstan)
The House of Vere is the first royal house of Anjou and said to be of pure Elvin Royal Dragon Blood.....who came into conflict with early Christian church officials
(dont even get me started on all this stuff: it is tied up in a lot of mythology : I am only reporting what I find: those of you who wish to read more can do so in:
The Dragon Legacy: The Secret of an Ancient Bloodline by Nicholas de Vere..........whereby the De Veres are considered the Grail bloodline.........supposedly a super human red haired and green eyed race of men
(gosh my family has a ton of green eyes: lol)
In any event: the DNA hits of Pierre do support an earlier origin in Brittany via name links...........and it is consistent with Acadian history
and it does mesh well with all the darn Irish and Scottish DNA hits Pierre links to
It is a well known fact that Celts had settled in Brittany and conducted a lot of back and forth migration to Ireland and the British Isles including Scotland.......
We would call them Brythonic Celts.........and Pierre definitely has the markers consistent with these Celts: 10@ 391.........
(bear in mind that the Celts indeed are believed to have arisen independently from the areas of Kazakstand and Belarus: Sire being a word for Magical in this region)
I am not going to bother chasing the DNA back into Ireland and Scotland from 700AD Brittany:
as our goal is to find a family for him........
it is safe to day that Raymond de Vere c. 700 AD did in fact exist....it is quite well supported.......
Now whether he belonged to any secret Dragon Bloodlines or not........it does place this DNA profile in Brittany......and lower Normandy
.and from what I know about Pict DNA profiles: he would not be a Pict: but a conqueror..........
It is worth noting he married Meuseline: the first of the Lusignans....and she was from Scotland: but said to be of the same De Vere lineage anyway...a cousin or something...where you so often punch in Sire and get Sire of Lusignan..
What is not proveable is whether or not these Celt De Veres were or were not of Viking stock........the Vikings had been raiding a long time in the Loire; mostly recorded after 800AD.........but who really knows.
Certainly the whole back story of Ireland and Scotland is possible: ..........but for now I am content to place him as a Celt in Brittany of uncertain origin around 700AD..
One would wonder why such a magical race would simply allow the Franks to roll over them and take control of much of the Loire if any of this back story is true.......
Because from about 800 AD or so onwards: that was the case.
along with raiding Viking settlements.
What is probable and likely true is the Robin Hood story:
That Robin Hood was Robin De Vere who inherited Hoode.....but lost his land and became somewhat of an outlaw........
There is some factual basis to the Robin Hood stories and those who wish to pursue it can have some fun with this:
bloodline of Robin Hood........sound familiar to any Cyrs out there.........lol
What this does though for our search is fairly reduces any search in eastern northern France like Picardy........and focuses it more in the are of Rouen over to Nantes and in the Loire regions.
and even without DNA samples makes it fairly impossible he is a LeSueur or LeSier........
There were a few Sirre spelling families living in St. Malo and Nantes...........I wrote to them but they did not respond..........I have no idea how the name arose........
but Nantes was an international port with a large exposure to Anglo culture and thus the spelling is consistent with the region.......
I did review this before:........but all the DNA came back to Rouen;........and it still does.......but this opens the door very strongly to looking in Brittany as well.
There has long been thought that the Suharts were Breton knights........I have seen it published but without any good leads to follow.......
Sirart is sounded Sirar......and we know French allows the AR to be replaced with another R.....to be Sirr or Sirre.
So all of this is consistent........
I will revist the Sirre families of Nantes........where there is a a few of them still now.......
Nantes and Brittany in general was not the big focus of the Huguenot movement ..........it is likely then that Pierre would be Catholic.....and records must exist.
Cheers
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