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The fact that Pierre Sirre carries the genetic profile of William the Conqueror and/or his kin gets stronger: not weaker
Our DNA so far has never tested as a match to a single known French family...............as it should.....
(remember: no one had last names until the 1400's and then they just picked them: more or less randomly: so we should match French people who picked different last names: but we don't)
So far we are one of 4 known matches to these Norman vikings...the others being the:
Fecamps
James family of Wales
Criel/Curl families
and
us
Every single one of these families can place Rollo, paternal lineage of William in their direct lineage......
However: the concept of "Norman" needs to be expanded.......
I have since learned that Aquitaine/Gascony and the north of Spain/Portugal was overrun by these very same families at least 100 years before Normandy.....
In fact the Danish Vikings kept a base in Saintonge for about 150 years..........as well as their usual base in Southern Ireland
it is said that the native Celts were so terrified they fled inland....
If this is true: then nearly all of Gascony/ Poitou/down to Toulouse and part of Basque regions would also carry this same Viking DNA...........the Vikings struck inland over the Pyrennees to the Med. Sea..........tried to conquer Spain but had no success....
They also drove up the Loire River: but I am not aware that they settled there.......as they did in Aquitaine.
This explains much:
we find this Viking DNA profile strongly in Basque regions, Bay of Biscay, southern Ireland, Normandy and of course England over to Denmark......
Wherever the Danish Vikings were: they left their DNA......
Now normally the Vikings only were interested in Churches:
they pillaged them to retrieve the artifacts........
and secondarily to take slaves: mainly females......
Usually they struck in small groups of several hundred:
all from the same clan.........
but normally never settled: they moved to sea bases where they felt secure......
like the Island of Noirmontier off the coast of Poitou.....
So when searching DNA profiles
you find profiles similar to ours in these exact spots:
Basque regions
Poitou/Aquitaine
Normandy
England
Ireland
Wales
Belgium
and of course Denmark......
but similar is not SAME........
Our "similar" profile shows up wherever Danish Vikings struck......and shows up more deeply where they settled.
but "same" only shows up in Rouen and Wales and England.
However I mention this because at one time I did feel Pierre de Serre of Perigord could well be Pierre Sirre......but tossed that idea
as at the time I did not see a "fit" for the DNa......
Now I see that indeed the DNA could fit.......
although why not with other French families of the region I can't imagine.
Part of it is that the French in general have not shown great interest in DNA.......
but since Canadians do..........we have a strong sampling of many many Norman French in particular.......and good round of La Rochelle ones also.......
The English are also vigilant about lining up the DNA........and theirs inevitably goes back to
Normans, Franks or the Saxons and Angles and Jutes...
So it is not truly lack of samples that makes Pierre's DNA rather unique
in the pool of Viking's........in France......
More likely the result of "lack of males"........too few males....
this too is consistent with Normans: as the elite preferred to settle England rather than France......single handedly creating the entire English aristocracy......
The DNA studies of England show fairly clearly the geography of DNA patterns:
the Saxons to the south
the Angles to the north
the Jutes: more or less centered around London....
Franks occupied the lowlands of the Rhine/Flanders, etc.
who were Celts as well
: but specific lines of Celts....ones that generally do not carry the marker P312..
all the rest of England is fairly Celt........the biggest body of English people.........who DO carry P312.......
a marker that divides the Celts in half really:
P312 puts the specific brand of Celts as Brythonic:
generally meaning west of the Rhine Celts.......
the others carry a U106: generally meaning east of the Rhine....
Basques overwhelmingly are P312 positive........meaning their tribe of origin was located in general west of the Rhine......or left the Swiss Alps of origin and went south.
Whereas Franks drifted north along the Rhine and stayed there for the most part.
So DNA tells us a great deal:
especially now that deeper DNA testing
can sort out smaller differences
Like L21: the marker of the Celts in Ireland.........and usually Basques as well
(showing proof of the flow of the Celts back and forth as long suspected)
We don't yet know what Pierre is in the smaller deeper markers......
we should soon as more samples get tested.......
I mention this data:
only so as people get tested........
they have a background of what is known so far......
and hopefully others add to it.
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