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As we know: the Pierre Sirre DNA is primarily Basque in profile meeting 4 of the 5 marker criteria: and only 1 marker one point off (origin includes Gascony and Aquitaine at the time: deep southern French areas around the coast and Pyrannees) Certain experts have identified some of our older markers as originating in the Balkans/Turkey and a later one originating in the "Riviera".........which pretty much makes Pierre fall into the Italo Celts......group of migrating Celts who came out of the Alps and headed south: the other Celts heading to Germany) Looking at Iberian/Spanish DNA projects: we consistently find at early levels of markers: our Pierre is an identical match to a great many Portuguese early markers...... One thing that is interesting is Marker 391........the number should be an 11 .........most of his DNA type are but we are a 10......... less common. What is interesting about that is: that is pretty much the dividing line for Celts and Brythonic Celts....... Many of these Brythonic speaking Celts migrated to Wales.........nearly 98% of northern Welsh men carry this 10 marker,......... and the mutation goes back 3,000 years Around 100 BC French Brythonic speaking Celts for some reason established a homeland in Wales.......Cornwall and some Irish and northern Scots. Brythonic Celts refers to the language they spoke......and is the foundation of Welsh. Later Brythonic Celts migrated in large numbers back to Brittany........where this DNA marker is strong today. Only 44% of French Celts have this marker..........sounds like a lot.........but further narrows down the hunt for Pierre origins... And with this marker we can easily establish that Pierre's lineage might well be connected to a Brittany ancestral homeland. It would be quite fascinating to speculate that our Pierre's lineage at one time occupied Wales....... But it could well be true: this marker 391 mutation is nearly exclusive to Brythonic Celts and Brythonic language speakers. Well that is fairly ancient history: but a base point of Brittany is a solid lead. Our Pierre's ancestors most likely spoke Brythonic Celtic. We know our DNA is identical to the Couturier family of Quebec which has ancient Brittany origins. And there was a Sire clan in Brittany: albeit small, to search yet. What is more tantalizing is that a lot of early Acadian ships did sail from St.Malo areas.......not just La Rochelle......Pierre could well have been recruited by Nicholas Deny's.........or other original Acadian explorers who set sail from northern ports prior to La Rochelle being the favoured port. (remember: we don't really know if Pierre himself was the "first" Sirre to Acadia or the offspring of another sailor who later went back to France: and there was a chap named Sieur (forget the spelling at this moment: posted it a long time ago)who did come in the early times and later left right around the time of Pierre's projected birthdate.) We also know we carry the P312 marker of the Iberian Celts and not the U106 marker which is northern Celt....... so we likely don't have true northern Celtic origins... The 391 mutation happened around 3,000 years ago but the Celts didn't go to Wales until 100 BC........ So we are either from the pool that could go (coastal Basque/Gascon Celts) or from the returning Celt pool. DNA research is forging ahead in leaps and bounds with deeper and deeper testing: thus the need for some Sirre testing at the 67 marker level The best we have had to date is a lot of 12 marker and some 37 marker tests.........which give us some history: but not current enough to really nail down our Pierre's history. I encourage Pierre Sire males to take the 67 marker test to add to our body of knowledge. What I have shared above is very very general.......some early observations....... That 391 mutation is a key to our puzzle about who Pierre was.........as more testing gets done we will find more and more variations to isolate his identity. Notify Administrator about this message?
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