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Pierre Desaix /De Serre/ Suire Carignan
Posted by: suzanne sears (ID *****1949) Date: December 09, 2008 at 07:32:16
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Pierre "Desaix" who abjures in Montreal
and is then know as
Pierre De Serre
and
Pierre Suire

The act of abjuration exists.

thus Pierre De Serre/Suire is confirmed as a Carignan
and from Periogod France
and a village near Annesse

apparently there were 3 men from this place who also joined the Carignan

the others being
Jean de Douys
and
Claude Laurent

as well, Pierre is confirmed as residing in Canada after the 1668 disbanding of the troops.

Is he Pierre Sirre of Acadia 1668?

Probably.

Some regiments of the Carignan were stationed in Acadia
and particularily Fort St. Louis which they were rebuilding.

A few soldiers spent their entire time with the Carignan just at this fort.

It is entirely possible that Pierre De Serre/Suire
was among these men
and thus was already in Nova Scotia in 1668 when released from service.

Certainly no other man with a name even similar appears anywhere else in records during 1668 that have been found so far.

The signature we have for Pierre Sirre if this is the case
could not likely have been written by him.

The style is so identifiable as northern that the only other explanation is that he could not write
and the local priest wrote that in for him.

If one looks at the writing style for the 1671 census, written by the priest, one can clearly see what I mean.

Unless better evidence surfaces: in all probability
Pierre Sirre/Sire is indeed Pierre Desaix, De Serre/ Suire of the Carignan.

The region of Periogod narrows down an ancestral hunt for him even further.

However, both versions of the family name appear in this region.

De la Serre
and
Suire

Suire being a smaller branch and quite easy to trace.
This family definitely contains the names Jean, Francois and Guillaume that Pierre uses for his children.

De La Serre is less clear since it is a larger branch and those children's name don't readily appear as ancestors.

However, the De la Serre branch definitely married into the
La Chapelle family

and we know Pierre "Desaix" used La Chapelle as his dit name......and it was not uncommon to use a mother's name as a dit name.

Also, there is a church in the region called La Chapelle de Siroac.......pronounced.....Sira........

so which family branch Pierre Desaix, De la Serre, Suire
belongs to seems to be unclear right now.........he could belong to either

Certainly the key mystery of who Pierre Desaix, De (la) Serre and Suire may be is solved.

All that remains to be known conclusively is if he is one and the same as Pierre Sirre/Sire......

In 1668, 50% of all the men in New France were Carignan and probably a much higher percentage of the single young men.
The odds certainly favour this explanation for the ancestor Pierre Sire/Cyr.











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