Re: CURDS AND ROSES
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In reply to:
CURDS AND ROSES
TROY M ROSE 7/30/08
I posted the following in my weblog some months ago but received no comments. I wondered whether it may restart some interest in the Curd-Rose connection:
About a year or so ago and all in the interests of genealogy, I had a Y-DNA (follows the male line) test done. At the time there were only a couple of matches to mine and they were already known to me through more conventional records.
After a few months, as more people had tests done, the number of links grew a bit; again most of them were from people I knew andshared the same or very similar surname (CURD, CURDS, CURDE etc) however, there were a couple (and now even more) who had other surnames! Perhaps even more surprisingly these were very close DNA matches differing in only 1 or 2 markers which makes it almost certain we share common ancestors. The fact that all these connected persons live in the USA made the match even more interesting. The surname with the most and best matches is ROSE which is obviously not one derived from CURD or one which could be easily mistaken for it.
I had previously contacted one or two of the ROSE relatives, but none could shed light on a possible connection – I assumed one of my ancestors must have “strayed” and, as there are many CURDs in the USA, I assumed the straying took place over there and left it at that; interesting diversion but one that seemed almost impossible to fully explain.
Today, I received an email from a W. ROSE in the USA:
Brian,I understand that you are working on the Curd family genealogy so you are probably aware of the fact that DNA of a group of descendants of Robert ROSE & Dorothy match with your Curd family descendants.This Robert came to New England in the 1630s and probably came from England, possibly Kent.
I’m forwarding the attached Article of the early Long Island, NY settlers as Robert was the ROSE who was one of the first nine settlers of Easthampton on Long Island in the 1640s having come down from Lynn, MA.This article states that six of the nine early settlers came from Kent but we’re NOT certain at this time which of these six are known to be from Kent.It is possible that one is our Robert ROSE whose wife was named Dorothy.
Based on there being Curd descendants who match our ROSEs, there seems to be a connection between the two families and it possibly began in the Kent area of England prior to the 1630 time period.We know that there were ROSEs living in that area so it is possible that is where Robert came from and where the two families connected.
Thanks for your attention to this article and the possible connection with our ROSE group.
Assuming this info is correct, it means that the “straying” appears to have taken place back here in Kent before 1630 and that my Hertfordshire CURD branch must be connected with KENT branch and also that the common CURD ancestor and therefore MY family were not from Hertfordshire after all!
Having been stuck in 1750 with one John CURD in Hertfordshire, this has rekindled my interest in the family’s history although finding records dating back so far won’t be easy!
Cheers
Brian Curd (UK)