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Re: Crumps in England
Posted by: Ed Crump, Jr. Date: February 07, 2002 at 21:51:29
In Reply to: Re: Crumps in England by Pauline Crump-Stewart of 2395

Pauline, I think you can reasonably include Wales as an origination for the Crump family. Records are certainly sketchy for the period prior to 1300, but we know that there were Crumps in Wales prior to that date. We also know that there were Crumps in England and Ireland before then. Scotland I do not have any information on yet, but not impossible.

Some researchers also include Finland as a possible origination. There is really no way for us to know at this point.

One of the things I have been concerned about is when does nationalality really start? If someone migrated from Wales to Ireland, for example, in the 1200's, and then the family migrated to the colonies five hundred years later, were they Welch or Irish? How long does one have to have ancestors in a country to be considered "from" that country? If a Crump from England (or anywhere else) moved to Ireland in the mid 1600's and then immigrated to the US in 1700, were they Irish or English? I have never been able to firure that one out. Many (if not most) Irish immigrants to the US were from English roots.

Food for thought. Ed Crump


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