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Descendants of William Crump
Some of these children are merely speculative and should NOT really be considered a FACT
Excuse any errors please as I have had lots of out of town visitors and callers and I
am rushing to do the things I need to do as well as aid long lost friends in life crisis.
I have stopped repeatedly in putting this together and talked all night to someone
at the kitchen table discussing life and life management and recipes with fresh
jalepeno peppers and scrambled eggs. :-)
Robert, Hannah, Mary, and Francis are proven children. Skordas’ named a son
John in his importation’s book, however no further mention of John was found.
John either died or he was in fact the John Crump of Prince William County VA
who died in 1748 or another unknown.
1. William Crump b: Bef. 1632 probably England d: 1695 MD
.. +Francis Mountney b: Abt. 1628 probably Virginia d: Bef. 1695 probably MD
.. 2. Jarvis Crump?
.. 2. Francis Crump b: Bef. 1663 Virginia
.. 2. William Crump b: Bef. 1663
.. 2. Robert Crump b: Abt. 1665 New Kent Co., VA d: Bef. October 1749 Queen
Ann Co., MD
...... +Elizabeth Tydings b: Abt. 1665 m: Bef. 25 June 1719
.. *2nd Wife of Robert Crump:
...... +Jane Lowder, Lisenby Lazenby b: Abt. 1675 possible 2nd wife m: 28 May
1731 St. Luke's Parish, Queene Anne's Co., MD
...... 3. Preciosia Crump b: Abt. 1710
.......... +Samuel Bostick m: 14 January 1729/30 , QA
...... 3. Mary Crump
.......... +Unknown Godfrey
...... 3. Robert Crump b: Abt. 1745 Virginia d: Abt. 1825 Franklin County, GA
.......... +Mary Parr b: Abt. 1750 Halifax Co., NC d: Aft. 1830 Franklin Co., GA m:
Abt. 1770 Pittsylvania Co., Virginia
.. 2. Elizabeth Crump b: Bef. 1695
.. 2. Mary Crump b: Bef. 1695
...... +John Merriday, ? Meredith
.. 2. Thomas Crump, Possibly b: Bef. 1695 Piney Ridge, Dorchester, MD
...... +Elizabeth Boulton Boylston b: 1682 Piney Ridge, Dorchester Co., MD d: 1776
m: 06 April 1703 Ann Arundel County, Maryland.
.. 2. Hannah Crump b: Abt. 1700 Queen Anne's County, MD
...... +John Lloyd m: 11 September 1695 Kent Co., MD
...... 3. William Lloyd
.. *2nd Husband of Hannah Crump:
...... +James Heath b: Abt. 1680 MD d: Bef. 1719 MD m: 12 October 1702
.. *3rd Husband of Hannah Crump:
...... +Edward Richardson b: unknown m: 19 March 1718/19 Queen Anne's
County, MD
...... 3. Elizabeth Richardson
.......... +William Tarbotin m: Bef. 19 March 1718/19 Queen Anne Co., MD;
(QALR I(J)KB:9)
.. *4th Husband of Hannah Crump:
...... +Unknown Winn m: Bef. 1723
I am not including all the documentation of what we have proven because it is quite massive and
was researched by numerous researchers who may want to comment on their individual findings.
I will make some observations and these too are NOT facts, they are merely my viewpoint and
totally unconfirmed and undocumented.
This line seems to be connected to another William Crump, however the younger
William could have come from three families. William living in Fairfax in 1782
may have been either the grandson of William of MD or the son of John Crump
of Prince William; last the William of Fairfax might have come from New Kent
County also. Three Crump men worked for George Washington in various
capacities, William, Charles, 1st, and Turner Crump, the first of five to six
later Turners .
There was a William Crump who had a wife named Hannah and a daughter named
Nancy, and this William leased part of the Fitzhugh Patent called “Ravensworth”
in Fairfax County, in 1754. The maps and sectionals show this land to be near the
land of Adam Crump. A long time Crump researcher J. Griffin Crump related that a
William Crump lived just below Mt., Vernon. To have been 21 in 1754 this
William was born by 1733, and is older that the William of the 1782 Fairfax tax list
Many items seem to blur the lines on the two or possibly one William Crumps in VA and MD
before 1650 and 1663.
The older William of the 1782 census was too young it seems to me to be the William
with the wife Hannah. I did find a reference in King’s Will Book on Fairfax County
of a “Liddy Crump” and a William Crump mentioned in John Speake's will, The
Speake family was from Shropshire County England. I have carefully done charts
on the census figures of William and William Crump Junior in Fairfax County.
I conclude there is a real possibility That “Liddy Crump” wife of William
MAY have been Elizabeth Speake. It is possible that the olfest of the possible
three William Crumps based upon estimation of ages from census and existing
records. I do not have the date on the Fairfax will or note because I gave my will
books to the library. :-(
The POSSIBLE but not proven sons of the elder William in 1782 are, William,
Stephen, Daniel, George, a John and others unknown. Stephen is said by various
genealogist to have come straight from Wales, however I doubt this because Stephen
was married to a Sisson. There was a Sisson in this area for a long time and Caleb
Sison was a Scout, Indian guide and hunter; the family had been there since
Colonial times and I suspect Stephen Crump had too. I did the notes at the Fairfax
Courthouse and William Crump was noted in the existing indexes for Court
Minutes, as a Plantiff, Defendant, Juror, Sheriff, and other mentions. William,
Daniel and Stephen had suits against different Powell men, and George married a
Jane Powell. These references make it clear the Crump surname was often found
with other surnames in two locations, the Southside, and the Northern Neck.
Researchers should check all the books the Speracios have transcribed probably well
over two hundred. All of the Crumps in the second William Crump’s family of
Fairfax County apparently were in Truro Parish and in 1830, William, William Jr.,
John, Daniel and George, five of them were listed as being in Northumberland
County.
One comment that I would make is of Robert when he married Jane. The
mention of Robert’s name in 1719 in a land deal suggests he was born by
1688, however Frances Mountney would have been much to old to have been
Roberts mother so William must have had another wife. I am now wondering
if William of MD had a second wife and when Frances died. A marriage in
1731 means the Robert if the same Robert was minimally 43 years old when
he married Jane.
The surname Powell came from the Southside and this Robert might have
been the one in New Kent County who married Martha POWELL.
I have quite a bit on the POWELLS, and a researcher named Robert Strong
was a prolific poster on the Powell family list with many records.
I strongly suggest anyone interested in the Powells Look at this list. I have several
Powell women in my own genealogy.
***again Thomas Speake was from Shropshire County England where another
Adam Crump different from Adam Crump of VA was born, and about the same
age or younger than Ed Crump’s Adam Crump The other Adam’s parents were
William Crump and Mary.
Descendants of Thomas Speake
from Shropshire County England
1. Thomas Speake b: Abt. 1645 d: 1681 ,,MD
.. +Elizabeth Bowling b: 1643 <, Charles, MD> m: 1664 <, Charles, MD>
.. 2. John Speake b: 1665 ,Charles, MD d: 1731 ,Charles, MD
...... +Winifred Wheeler b: 1664 <, Charles, MD> m: 11 August 1685 <, Charles,
MD>
...... 3. Thomas Speake d: 1767 ,Charles, MD
...... 3. James Speake b: 1686 <, Charles, MD>
...... 3. John Speake b: 1690 <, Charles, MD> d: 1775
.......... +Elizabeth Wade b: 1702 <, Charles, MD>
...... 3. Richard Speake b: 1698 d: 1748 ,Charles, MD
.......... +Theodosia Wade b: 1700 <, Charles, MD> d: 1758 ,Charles, MD m: 1717
,Charles, MD
.......... 4. Richard Speake Lt. d: 1779 ,Charles, MD
.......... 4. Thomas Speake Capt. b: 1718 <, Charles, MD> d: 1775
.......... 4. John Speake b: 1720 d: 1775 ,Charles, MD
.......... 4. Mary Speake b: 1722 <, Charles, MD>
.......... 4. Theodosia Speake b: 1724 <, Charles, MD>
.......... 4. Hezekiah Speake b: Abt. 1725 d: 1771 ,Charles, MD
.............. +Theodosia Barnes b: 1729 <, MD> m: Abt. 1750 ,MD
............... 5. Elizabeth Speake b: 17 December 1753 <, MD>
............... 5. Hezekiah Speake b: 1757 ,Prince William, MD d: 01 January 1837
............... 5. Mary Speake b: 1758 <, Prince William, MD>
............... 5. John Speake b: 1760 <, Prince William, MD>
............... 5. Joseph Speake b: 02 March 1765 ,Prince William, VA d: Abt. 1835
............... 5. Francis Speake b: 18 September 1767 <, Prince William, VA>
.......... 4. Elizabeth Speake b: 1726 <, Charles, MD>
.......... 4. Winifred Speake b: 1728 <, Charles, MD>
.......... 4. George Speake b: 1735 <, Charles, MD> d: 1762
.......... 4. Jane Speake b: 1737 <, Charles, MD>
.......... 4. William Speak b: 1739 <, Charles, MD>
.......... 4. Joseph Harrison Speake Capt. b: 1741 <, Charles, MD> d: June 1795
.......... 4. Francis Speake Capt. b: 1750 <, Charles, MD> d: March 1802
...... 3. Jane Speake b: 1700 <, Charles, MD>
.. *2nd Wife of John Speake:
...... +Mary Semmes Goodricke b: 1673 d: 1746 ,Charles, MD m: 1694 <, Charles,
MD>
.. 2. Bowling Speake b: 1673 d: 1755 ,Charles, MD
*********A Thomas Speake married an Abigail Crump in SHROPSHIRE Co, England********
Part of the notes from Fairfax County card file on Court Minutes now
missing because of Wars in the USA.
Fairfax Co., Court Minutes:
micro card # ? 1749; 27 March 1751 p. 133
James Cullens plt. vs Phillip Noland petition paid John Crump, evidence against
Phillip Noland
card # 31 1754-1765 19 Mar. 1754, p. 60
William Crump lease from Henry Fitzhugh
This William was probably born about 1730 or so and his wife was named
Hannah an he had a daghter named Nancy. It could be he is the father
of the William who later appears in Fairfax tax lists, Possibly he could
have been the son of John or Prince William and Fquqier Counties VA.
The land was close to Adam Crump’s land, but they were NOT related.
microfiche card # 53 22 Sept. 1756, p. 27
Wm. Crump, juror
1756 pt.ii, p. 378
William Crump plt. vs adm. of Andrew Charleton, dec., admn., petition dismissed.
15 Nov. 1757, p. 170, Wm. Crump def. vs John Dixon trespass, plt to pay 818 lbs.
crop tob., 2, 0, 6, also cost
21 May 1763, p. 883 Wm. Crump def. vs John Muir, debt, did not appear to pay 8
Lbs. 8, 12, 5 with interest from 16 May 1763 & cost. common bail Thomas Beach.
microfiche card # 83 1763 19 Sept. 1763
_________ Crump def. vs Crawford assignee to pay
22 Dec. 1763, p. 62
_________ Crump def. vs Crawford, 1-18-64 p. 62, award 9/19/64
19 Nov. 1771 John & Wm. Crunby plt. vs. George Darrell & James Waugh scire
facias suit, agreed Darrell dead Waugh to pay cost.
same card; 20 Nov. 1771; Wm. Crump def. vs S or(L)ilveski Adams petition, to pay
950 lbs., crep. tobacco with cost.
21 Nov. 1771; p. 320; Wm. Crook of Truro Parish presented for not registering for
taxes.
card # 20; May 1782; p. 148; Wm. Crump co def. plt. Joshua Spiece? debt, def.
confessed to pay 3 Lbs., 1, 0, Va. currency with int. from 1/1/87 & co.[?cost]
19 Apr. 1784; p.62; Wm. Crump co. def. vs Thomas Fitzhugh, replevy bond, def. to
pay 996 lbs. tobacco with int. from 11/20/83 & cost.
card #4; 16 Dec. 1785; p. 487; Wm. Crump def., W. Adams & Jacob Swoop petion
agreed. Wm. Crump paid 650 lbs. of tobacco by Buntey?.
15 May 1786; p. 215; Wm. Crump def vs John Fowler, debt confessed to pay 7 Lbs.,
17, 9, with int. from May 5-4-75 and cost.
22 Sept. 1789; p. 30; Wm. Crum listed between Daniel Mills and Chas. Cavery on
rd. from Ricketts to Fraziers.
card # 20; 22 Sept. 1789; Wm. Crump Jr. listed between John Mills and Joseph
Powell on rd. from widow Tuckers to Falls Church.
20 Jan. 1791; J. S. Crump called from N. C. as witness in Monroe et al plt. vs
Payne's extrs.
******THIS JS CRUMP is TOTALLY UNKNOWN and or accounted for Resaechers on the Adam Crump
line have all said he did not belong to them.
18 Jan. 1791; p. 393; Wm. Crump constable paid 110 lbs. tobacco by the Co.
20 Dec. 1791 Elizabeth Crump called from N. C. as witness in Monroe et al plt. vs
Payne's (? et al or def. ?).
19 Sept. 1791 Wm Crump Constable to be sworn
card # 38; 15 Oct. 1792; Wm. Crump Jr. wit. deed from Marrianne Beach et al to
Nichilas Fitzhugh et al.
22 Apr. 1800, Crump, def., vs Brown exec.
11/22/1800 ; 17 Feb. 1801, to Brown dec., exec. to pay, l4, 7, 11.
17 Feb. 1801, Stephen Crump, art. of agree., Joseph Powell Jr.
1839, p. 309; Circ. Sup. Court.; Jun. 1848; Daniel Crump, def., vs W. L. Powell,
failed to appear, office judgement con?.
Descendants of Daniel Crump
1. Daniel Crump b: Abt 1784 Virginia d: Bef 1850 Mount Pleasant, Fairfax Co., VA
+Elizabeth Skidmore b: Abt 1793 Virginia d: Aft 1860 Virginia m: 23 November
1811 Arlington, Fairfax Co., VA
2. Ann Elizabeth Crump
+Kinsey Dyer m: Bef 1832
2. Daniel Fletcher Crump
2. Edward Wesley Crump b: Abt 1812 Fairfax Co., VA
+Mary V. Unknown b: Abt 1845 Fairfax Co., VA m: Abt 1860 Fairfax Co., VA
3. Nettie E Crump b: Abt 1864 Fairfax Co., VA
3. Nettie V. or E. Crump b: Abt 1864 Fairfax Co., VA
3. Elenor C Crump b: Abt 1868 Fairfax Co., VA
3. Salena E. Crump b: Abt 1871 Fairfax Co., VA
3. Laurence Crump b: Abt 1874 Fairfax Co., VA
2. Matilda Elizabeth Crump b: Abt 1818 Virginia
2. John Rockwall Crump b: Abt 1823 Fairfax Co., VA
+Martha Unknown b: Abt 1829 Fairfax Co., VA m: Abt 1848 Fairfax Co., VA
3. Mary Effie Crump
+John Edward Hantzmon
3. George W. Crump b: Abt 1849 Fairfax County VA
+Emily M. Unknown b: September 1850 Arlington Co., VA
4. Hattie Crump b: Abt 1859 Arlington, VA?
4. John B Crump b: Abt 1869 Arlington, VA
4. Annie Crump b: Abt November 1871 Fairfax County VA
4. Ada Crump b: Abt 1876 Fairfax Co., VA
3. Anna Crump b: Abt 1851 Fairfax Co., VA
3. Hatty Crump b: Abt 1857 Fairfax Co., VA
3. M. (Martha?) Crump b: Abt 1859 Fairfax Co., VA
2. Lewis Asbury Crump b: Abt 1826 Fairfax Co., VA
+Abigail J. Ives b: Abt 1832 Pennsylvania d: 1884 Fairfax Co., VA m: Abt 1860
Fairfax Co., VA
3. Elmer I Crump b: Abt 1868 Fairfax Co., VA d: 1939
2. George William Crump b: Abt 1829 Fairfax Co., VA
2. Louisa Frances Crump b: Abt 1833 Fairfax Co., VA
+Abbey J. Ives
2. Emory S Crump b: September 1835 Fairfax Co., VA d: Aft 1900
+Susan E Unknown b: July 1835 Virginia m: Abt 1860 Virginia
3. Frances A Crump b: Abt 1861 Virginia
3. Mary J Crump b: Abt 1865 Virginia
3. Effie B Crump b: Abt 1867 Virginia
3. Julia Blanche Crump b: Abt 1870 Virginia
3. Lillie Crump b: September 1873 Virginia
+Thomas S Lee b: November 1870 VA m: Abt 1898 Fairfax Co., VA
4. Thelma W Lee b: September 1898 Fairfax Co., VA
*2nd Wife of Emory S Crump:
+Susan E*unknown b: July 1835 Virginia m: Abt 1860 Virginia
3. Mary J Crump b: Abt 1865 Virginia
2. Susan E Crump b: Abt 1836 Virginia
Oakwood Cemetery, Falls Church, Fairfax, Virginia
Crump, Abigail J. 1832-1883 \ shared
Crump, Lewis A. 1823-1885 /headstone
all Crumps there:
Crump, Lewis 1892-1900
Crump, Henrietta M. 1871-1929
Crump, Elmer I. 1868-1939
Crump, Abigail J. 1832-1883 \ shared
Crump, Lewis A. 1823-1885 /headstone
Work on transcribing Fairfax County documents on this family is in progress.
1782-Fairfax Co. whites blacks neighbors
list of Thomas Lewis
Turner Crump 10 1 Rich. Halley , Eliz. Hunter
list of Geo. Gilpin
William Crump 5 Giles Cook , Thomas Douglas
William Crump Sr. 9 David Price, Nath. Popejoy
from : Virginia Tax Payers ,( Other Than Those Published by The United States
Census Bureau, A. B. Fothergill , John M. Naugle
Benjamin Crump 2 11 Fauq.
George Crump 1 4 Kg. Wm.
George Crump Culp.
James Crump 11 5 West.
John Crump 7 York
Richard Crump 2 4 Bed.
Thomas Crump 2 Kg. Wm.
Thomas Crump Bed.
Thomas Crump 1 Camp.
Turner Crump 11 Fay.
William Crump 1 Fay.
1785-Fairfax Co.
William Crump Jr 5 Wm. Crump, Geo Chapman neighbors
William Crump 7 Wm. Crump Jr., Joseph Cockrell
again on the list of George Gilpin
1810 Fairfax County census
William Crump Jr. Fair, 189 00010-00010-00
William Crump Sr. Fair. 189 02001-00001-01
William Crump Sr, probably was the father of three sons William Jr,
Daniel and perhaps a George/
1820 Fairfax County census
William Crump, Sr. Fair 070 Truro Pa 000001-00001
William and his wife over 45
Daniel Crump Fair 068 Truro Pa 200110-20110-00000000
probably has a brother in his home; from the page numbers he lives
close to William Sr.
Merry Christmas all!
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