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Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. The story from my family is that William Crum and his brothers all farmed near the shores of Lake Champlain, and that Lucinda was his 2nd wife. His first wife, a Ketchum, died around 1805 after about 7 years of marriage and 3 children, Louisa, John, and Elizabeth. By 1810, a brother (or cousin?) of Lucinda's, Hooker Gilbert Hubbard, lived next door to William and Lucinda in Chesterfield, NY, just south of Peru, NY. (Maybe that is the Au Sable of which you speak, which I'd never heard of.) One of my family genealogists, Janet Billings, proposes that William Crum could have been a deserter from the British Army, which occupied parts of America until 1796, when William would have been 23. We also have the story of William and Lucinda witnessing the naval battle on Lake Champlain in September 1814. Shortly afterwards, they and others of Lucinda's family were among those who left the area, believing that the British Army would return. My family believes they were in Middletown, VT with relatives of Lucinda's, when McDonough was born. I don't know where they got this, or whether there is documentation. Do you have a source for him being born in Peru? To continue the story, late in 1815 a group which included William and Lucinda and their children and Hooker Gilbert Hubbard (and family?), started for the West by ox team. They traveled in the winter in order to use the ice on the lakes and rivers as a way to get through the wilderness (was it wilderness then?), and to be settled in a new place by spring planting time. A great blizzard came and they were forced to halt near Spencer, NY. When the weather improved enough to travel, they had run out of money, so decided to stay and settle there. It became a little cross roads hamlet, named Crumtown, where McDonough grew up. William's daughter by his first marriage, Louisa, remained at Peru, NY and married Harvey Haff. Four years after McDonough married Margaret Holcomb, they left Crumtown/Spencer and settled on a farm at West Candor, 8 miles east of Spencer. Mcdonough was a prominent member of the Baptist Church there. I have Ambrose born in 1846, son of Margaret, which would make him 6 when he died in 1852. LAFAYETTE CRUM was born in a log house on his parents' farm near West Candor in 1844. He enlisted in the Union Army at the time of the Civil War. He served at least from April 1862, when he was 18, until June 1866, when he was 22. He fought in the bloody battles of Chancellorsville and Gettysburg. While reconnoitering during the Battle of Gettysburg, he was shot in the shoulder, so was sent home on furlough. Thereafter he was never able to raise that arm over his head. He worked in Washington, D.C. following the war as a night watchman. During the day he visited sessions of Congress, and began to develop his great interest in government reforms. He attended a play starring John Wilkes Booth, the man who later shot President Lincoln. He decided to become a school teacher and taught school on Rumsey Hill, near Van Etten, New York, 3 miles west of Spencer, and in Crumtown and other nearby hamlets. He conducted singing schools in the county districts. LaFAYETTE CRUM married MARY ELIZABETH OSBORNE in 1870 when he was 26 and Mary Elizabeth was 23. Mary Elizabeth Osborne was born in Van Etten, New York in 1847. She was the daughter of STEPHEN OSBORNE and RACHAEL RUMSEY, who may have been married in 1844 in Van Etten, when Stephen was 26 and Rachael had just turned 18. Their first child, Nathan, was born either before or in the same year as their marriage. Mary Elizabeth was born 3 years later, and was followed by Emma in 1849 and Selah in 1857. LaFayette Crum and Mary Elizabeth Osborne had 5 children that lived. The two boys, Harry and Fred, were born in 1871 and 1872. Another boy, Ernest, was born in 1877, but lived only ten months. Then the three girls, Emma, Effie, and Maude, were born in 1880, 1881, and 1885. The Crum family lived on a farm in West Candor, New York. Effie's childhood friend, Alice Cass, lived on the next farm, and they exchanged notes which they left in each other's mailboxes. Sometime after 1885, the family moved 40 miles to Ithaca, New York, where they ran a boarding house at their home at 212 Linden Avenue for students at Cornell University. LaFayette Crum became a member of the Populist Party in the 1880's. Because of his strong belief in justice for the poor and the oppressed, he said he was a Socialist even before the Socialist Party was organized in America. He was also a Mason. Mary Elizabeth Osborne died in 1911 at age 64, of "incurable rheumatism." Her daughter Effie took care of her before she died. Effie was 30 and not yet married when her mother died. LaFayette Crum married Harriet Lake Woodward in 1913. He was 66 and she was 61. Harriet lived only 5 years after their marriage. After she died, Lafayette married Mary Andrews Howell, who had a daughter, Mabel Howell. In the last years before he died, he lived at his daughter Emma's house at 318 N. Plain Street in Ithaca. He died in 1934, less than two months before his 90th birthday. He got pneumonia, and then gradually deteriorated. When he died, the Tompkins County Socialist Organization established the LaFayette Crum Memorial Fund to continue his educational work. Effie Crum is my grandmother. Much of this material came from my mother's cousin, Walter E. Hopper (son of Maude Crum), a prominent NYC lawyer who is now in his 90's. I would LOVE to see his source material! But I live in New Mexico, far from NYC. Walter says that william Crum served in the War of 1812, and that he has a copy of his discharge papers, and claims that he was never in the British Army. The other main source is Janet Billings, a descendant of McDonough's brother James. She's the one who found the Ketchums. I found a letter she sent my parents in 1996, saying that John Crum of New Canaan CT, grandson of Solon, visited her and looked at her research that year. My father was quite into persuing genealogy in the 1980's, and traveled in retirement to spencer and W. Candor, so may have gotten some of the stories from descendants who still live there. He did not keep notes of his sources, unfortunatley! As for Lucinda Hubbard, Janet Billings believes she is of the same family as Hooker Gilbert Hubbard, baptised in Middleton, VT in 1784, son of Selah Hubbard. This is plausable, since the name Selah turns up again later. Where are you located? Janet Billings thought some more research needed to be done about Lucinda, but by then she was quite old and unable to do it, and I am too far away. She worked hard to try to find a connection for William to all of the colonial Crum families, and came up with nothing, except that a "story of desertion came up" that she could not relate to the War of 1812. I could make copies for you of a few letters I have from Walter Hopper and Janet Billings that have some of this information. And I would love to see what you got at the National Archives. Ellen Ackerman Notify Administrator about this message?
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