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Hi, again, Tom:
To others ...
For several years, Tom has been providing an on-line site
for Crosman genealogies. I do not know whether he is still
supporting that URL but if he is I'm sure he would be glad
to supply the appropriate access info for it. I urge you
to use the site (with eyes out for documentation)
Some time ago, Tom included information on the Bartholomew.
Crosmas line from New London,,Ct.
I copied som of it years ago ...
"The Connecticut line descends from a Bartholomew Crosman
who was born in England and came to the New World. He
settled in the New London area of Connecticut.
Bartholomew married Elizabeth Rogers. They had two known
children John and Elizabeth. John married Elizabeth Graves
(1) and Lydia Beckwith Huntley(2). From the first marriage
in 1728 was born a Thomas Crosman among others.
I have a Thomas who was born in Morris County, NJ in 1759.
He moved to New London when he was 8 years of age and was
raised to adulthood there. A Thomas Crosman purchased land
in New London in 1767, the same year my Thomas moved with
his family to that location. This is circumstantial
evidence that the purchaser of thisland was my Thomas'
father. There are no other known Crosmans in New London
during this period. And, the Massachusetts line described
below shows no one in the New London area or even a common
use of the name 'Thomas'. Additionally, there are no known
Thomas' born or living of land owner age other that the
Thomas born of John and Elizabeth. I therefore believe that
this Thomas who purchased land in 1767 is the son of John
and Elizabeth. As such he would have been 31 years old when
my Thomas was born. Due to this and the timing and location
of the land purchase I believe he is the father of my
Thomas born in Morris County, NJ."
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Tom also said
"This is the weakest part of this genealogy. Everything
else, with the exception of typos or spelling errors is
accurate and documented."
Back in 1999, Tom posted the following here
"We really need to compare notes in detail. I've a Thomas
Crosman born Morris CT, NJ 1759 whose father I believe was
a Thomas Crosman. So few Crosman's in NJ at this time there
ought to be some connection."
Since that time, and perhaps even before Tom and I have
corresponded several times.
I agree(d) that there were very few Crosman's in NJ then
and wondered whether perhaps his line and the Taunton-
N.J. line were the same line. I don't know whether that has
ever been resolved!
Here is some of the correspondence I have sent him at various times.
"There is a book entitled Revolution Census of New Jersey
by Kenn Stryker-Rodda
It is in 3 sections. Section I covers 1773-1774. Section
III consists of lists of townships having no "extant
ratables" until 1784 or 1785. Section II is for townships
having "no extant ratables" before 1778-1780. I am GUESSING
this to mean that the town was created 1778ish.
(I think that it is likely that "extant ratables" meant "taxable inhabitants")
In any case, on pg 51 of section two there is an entry for
Thomas Crosman of Upper Freehold Monmouth County.
[this entry pretty much ensures that this Thomas Crosman
would have been born before 1764]
There are no Crosman entries (or ANY variation) in either section I or section III"
I'm sorry to say that I do not know how I came by the
following source,but the records of the Philadelphia MM
are available somewhere on the net. Here it is an entry
for whatever value it might have ...
Philadelphia,,Pa Quaker montly meeting. Vol 2 pg 352 of 14?
Vols on Quakers
Thomas Crossan died Oct 14, 1767.
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Tom:
I posted the following as a query topic in your web page.
Seems useful to pass it on to you as e-mail ...
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There is also some circumstantial evidence that the Ct. Cros(s)mans
MAY be a line of the Mass Cros(s)mans.
viz.
There were 3 (THREE) Cros(s)man brothers from the MASS Cros(s)man
family Samuel b Aug 22 1697 Joseph b Aug 22 1697
Theophilus b Mar 18 1708/09
All of whom moved to Morris County New Jersey in the first third of
the 18th century and seem like possible candidates as father or
possibly grandfather of the "Connecticut" Thomas Cros(s)man
who was born in 1759.
p.s.
The 3 brothers above had a fourth brother Barnabas who married
Hannah Mahurin of Raynam. Hannah's brother Ebenezer of Raynham also
moved to Morris County NJ 1731.
Ebenezer Mahurin & Joseph Coe made inventory of the estate of Robert
Crossman, yeoman, of New Hanover Township, Hunterdon County, NJ
10 Dec 1732. The widow was Hannah Crossman and the Administrator was
Samuel Crossman, brother of the deceased. (Archives of the State
of N.J., First Series, 30 [1918]:126).
In addition there was a fourth brother, Phineas, (b Jul 31 1707)
who was living in Coventry Ct by the 1750s. (So there was at least
ONE Mass Cros(s)man who DEFINITELY moved to Ct. I am tracking that
Phineas now and do not know whether he had a son Thomas.
What follows I forgot to post in the query ...
p.p.s The Mahurin info above comes from a NEHGR genealogy of Hugh
Mahurin of Taunton.
An additional fact I forgot to mention. This article says that Theophilus
Cros(s)man had 9 children.
The last statement about the number of children is incorrect. Theophilus had
THREE children and died sometime before 1744 when his wife Elizabeth
Mahurin remarried.
Her 1st two Cros(s)man children were baptized in the First Presbyterian
Church of Morristown when she and her 2nd husband Benjamin Hathaway b at
Dighton Ma 1699 renewed their covenant with the church
Theophilus bp 6 Oct 1746
Betty bp 6 Oct 1746
Then Joshua was bp 5 June 1748
(History of the First Presbyterian Church of Morristown 2:101,102)
Since Theophilus married in 1731 his son Theophilus or
even Joshua -I suppose- could also POSSIBLY have had a son Thomas by 1759.
Most of the above was written two or three years ago.
And now some current comments
The earliest record I have seen of a "Taunton" Thomas
Cros(s)man was of one who was born Oct 06, 1671 (Taunton VR)
and died in Canada 1690. NEHGR VOL 9:354
The next Thomas Cros(s)man was the first son born to Samuel
Cros(s)man's 1st wife Elizabeth (Bell?) Aug 13, 1694 in
Taunton.
This Thomas Crossman is of particular interest because he
was executor of Samuel's will written in 1748 and probated
1755. The Raynam Vital Records show only one son for him, named Leonard (probably after Thomas' in-laws). Leonard
died very soon.
There were actually FOUR of Thomas' younger brothers who
are well documented as having settled in New Jersey in the 1730s. The fourth one, Robert, almost certainly died
without children. Their names and d.o.b. were
Samuel & Joseph (Aug 22 1699), Robert (Apr 29 1699) &
Theophilus (Mar 18, 1708/09). These were the 1st,
2nd, 3rd and 8th sons of Samuel by his 2nd wife
Mary (Chamberlain?) (Sawyer).
Each of these four,except Robert, is named in Samuel's 1748 will.
"the children of my son Samuel Crossman deceased"
"my son Joseph Crossman
"the children of my son Theophilus Crossman deceased"
The omission of Robert (who died before 10 Dec 1732)
makes it clear [to me] that Robert had no children.
Robert's estate was administered by "Samuel Crossman, brother of the deceased (Archives of the State of
New Jersey, First Series, 30 [1918]:126)"
Inventory was taken by Ebenezer Maturin (and another). This
Ebenezer was very, very likely the brother of Theophilus'
wife Elizabeth. This is just an example of the kind of
detailed evidence that can be used to support that
all four sons went to New Jersey. There is quite a bit of
additional evidence including several real-estate proceedings,
other estate processings, and baptisms of Theophilus' children
Theophilus (1743), Betsey (1743), & Joshua (1746).
So, in addition to the _possibility that either Theophilus
or Joshua could have sired a Thomas in 1759, so also could
the Samuel who was dead by 1748.
your mileage may vary
herb nichols
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