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Ginger, The first issue is the Barbarosa did not land at Baltimore in 1902 Bara = Barbara Name: Bara Rubinic Arrival Date: 27 Feb 1907 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Age: 18 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium Race: Croatian Ship Name: Zeeland Former Residence Bukovlje Destination to bro Ivan at Morgan St 658 Perhaps Bara was from Bukovje Podvrško a bit to the SW of Samobor, as there are RUBINIC found there today. And it appears the your BORTAS were not from Samobor proper. There is a ship manifest for Jure/Juraj = George Name: Jure Bartos Arrival Date: 7 Mar 1911 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Age: 19 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Bremen Race: Croatian Ship Name: Kronprinz Wilhelm Destination to brother Stjepan (=Stefan) at Chicago Former Residence Lug, next of kin father Martin BORTAS at 5 Lug, Samobor (lug = forest) There BORTAS listed at Lug Samoborski in the phone book. The following confirms the info above (in spite of the spellings)(Hrvacko must be Hrvatska which means Croatia) Name: Stefan Zold Bortas Birthdate: 07 Dec 1914 Birthplace: Gender: Race or color (expanded): White Father's name: Stefan Bortas Father's birthplace: Luk Hrvacko Father's age: 33 Mother's name: Babri Rubinic Mother's birthplace: Bukove Hrvacko Mother's age: 27 Christening date: Christening place: Paternal grandfather's name: Paternal grandmother's name: Maternal grandfather's name: Maternal grandmother's name: Additional relatives: Death date: Age at death: Film number: 1288335 Digital GS number: 4298313 Image number: 00392 Reference number: 1323 Collection: Illinois, Cook County Birth Certificates 1878-1922 You can find this record along with Stefan's and Barbara's Marriage Certificate online at http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start As far as Stefan or Stjepan's ship manifest either it is so badly mis-transcribed that we can not find it or... he used someone else's passport which was not uncommon. Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Cleveland Ohio Notify Administrator about this message?
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