Re: Collier, Joseph ca. 1645
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Re: Collier, Joseph ca. 1645
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Barbara and Ann, and others-
Although I see there have been many responses to the original request, I offer the following--
Although I see there have been many responses to the original request, I offer the following--I have been researching my Collier line--Thomas of Hingham, Mass., 1635 and Gershom, of Boston and Chesterfield, Mass (1805), and have encountered the names of Joseph and Elizabeth, of Connecticut, several times.I attach some material from Savage's Dict. of First Settleers of New England, Vol. 1, page 268, andfrom the Powers Banks Ancestry, pages 54 - 55.This material is available online ($ 9.95 per month, and well worth it) from GenealogyLibrary, a part of the FamilyTreeMaker site.
I also attach a small listing from the FamilySearch.org site.There is much more there, and it is freely available.Note the many errors, however.In the section I attach, for example, William Collier and Jane Curtes are given as Joseph's parents-- William Collier (an important and well known figure in early Plymouth history) is not known to have had any surviving male children, and his wife's name was Jane Clarke.(Jane Curtis was the name of the wife of the 2d Thomas Collier, of Hull, in Savages notes, below.)The birthplace for Joseph is wrong, and birthdate isspeculation.The descendants of Joseph and Elizabeth Sanford might be more accurate, but I would look for confirmation.
I also attach a small listing from the FamilySearch.org site.There is much more there, and it is freely available.Note the many errors, however.In the section I attach, for example, William Collier and Jane Curtes are given as Joseph's parents-- William Collier (an important and well known figure in early Plymouth history) is not known to have had any surviving male children, and his wife's name was Jane Clarke.(Jane Curtis was the name of the wife of the 2d Thomas Collier, of Hull, in Savages notes, below.)The birthplace for Joseph is wrong, and birthdate isspeculation.The descendants of Joseph and Elizabeth Sanford might be more accurate, but I would look for confirmation.
Wade Collier
Wade CollierPosted by Barbara on August 21, 1999 at 17:33:48:
In Reply to: Collier, Joseph ca. 1645 posted by Ann Maloney on August 07, 1997 at 11:40:41:
I have a daughter of Joseph Collier & Elizabeth Sanford, name Sarah, b abt 1673 in Hartford, Ct. She married Joseph Pratt 22 July 1697 and died 20 Nov 1730 in Colchester, Conn. I found a father for Joseph named John born 1586. No other information.
In Reply to: Collier, Joseph ca. 1645 posted by Ann Maloney on August 07, 1997 at 11:40:41:
I have a daughter of Joseph Collier & Elizabeth Sanford, name Sarah, b abt 1673 in Hartford, Ct. She married Joseph Pratt 22 July 1697 and died 20 Nov 1730 in Colchester, Conn. I found a father for Joseph named John born 1586. No other information.
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A Genealogical history of early New England settlers; These books are still regarded as the authority on early New England genealogy; Written by James Savage; Vol. I
COL 433Portion of page 268
COL 433Portion of page 268COLLIER, AMBROSE, emb. at Barbados, for Boston, 11 Mar. 1679, in
the Society.
JOSEPH, Salisbury, had Mary, b. 9 Apr. 1662, wh. prob.
d. young, and he rem. to Hartford, a. 1666, d. 16 Nov. 1691, leav.
Joseph, aged 23; Mary (Phelps), 22; Sarah, 18; Eliz. 16; Abel, 14;
John, 12; Abigail, 9; Susanna, 7; and Ann, 4 1/2. His w. was, I pre-
sume, Eliz. d. of Robert Sanford of H.
MOSES, Hingham, s. of Thomas, m. 29 Mar. 1655, Eliz. Jones, had Benoni, b. 5 Apr. 1657. She d.
five days after, and he m. 17 Dec. 1657, Eliz. Bullard; freem. 1652.
the Society.
JOSEPH, Salisbury, had Mary, b. 9 Apr. 1662, wh. prob.
d. young, and he rem. to Hartford, a. 1666, d. 16 Nov. 1691, leav.
Joseph, aged 23; Mary (Phelps), 22; Sarah, 18; Eliz. 16; Abel, 14;
John, 12; Abigail, 9; Susanna, 7; and Ann, 4 1/2. His w. was, I pre-
sume, Eliz. d. of Robert Sanford of H.
MOSES, Hingham, s. of Thomas, m. 29 Mar. 1655, Eliz. Jones, had Benoni, b. 5 Apr. 1657. She d.
five days after, and he m. 17 Dec. 1657, Eliz. Bullard; freem. 1652.
THOMAS, Hingham 1635, freem. 1646, d. 6 Apr. 1647, the date of his
will, as in Geneal. Reg. VII. 173, 4, appears (tho. IX. 172, the abstr. of rec. of d. is one yr. earlier), aged 71, leav. w. and d. Susanna, s. Moses and Thomas.
will, as in Geneal. Reg. VII. 173, 4, appears (tho. IX. 172, the abstr. of rec. of d. is one yr. earlier), aged 71, leav. w. and d. Susanna, s. Moses and Thomas.
THOMAS, Hingham, s. of the preced. a propr. at Hull
1657, freem. 1663, was lieut. d. 1691, betw. 25 June, date of his will,
and 9 July, when it was pro. leav. w. Jane [Curtis - Wade C.]and five ch.
End of portion of page 268-- Material on William Collier, of London and Plymouth colony, omitted, as he was not related, as far as is known, to either Joseph or Thomas.[Wade C.8-22-99]
1657, freem. 1663, was lieut. d. 1691, betw. 25 June, date of his will,
and 9 July, when it was pro. leav. w. Jane [Curtis - Wade C.]and five ch.
End of portion of page 268-- Material on William Collier, of London and Plymouth colony, omitted, as he was not related, as far as is known, to either Joseph or Thomas.[Wade C.8-22-99]
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Powers-Banks Ancestry
Powers-Banks Ancestry
This 1921 ancestrial work includes over 100 families back to the 14th century.
This 1921 ancestrial work includes over 100 families back to the 14th century.Bibliographic Information: Powers, William H. Powers-Banks Ancestry. Ames Iowa: John Leslie Powers, 1921
Bibliographic Information: Powers, William H. Powers-Banks Ancestry. Ames Iowa: John Leslie Powers, 1921
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the main the will is chiefly concerned to accept the conditions set up by his father's will.
In volume 3 of the Connecticut Colonial Records, occurs an item, not set down in the index, connecting John Pratt with one of the old world tragedies. William Kelso, "Chirurgeon Generall" in the late Rebellion in Scotland, having escaped from England, to the captain of the ship made declaration of what he knew about the murder of Archbishop Sharp. Accordingly, an order was out for the arrest of Kelso. On the return of the warrant, dated 15 June, 1683, by John Shephard and John Pratt, constables, it was noted that they "cannot find or hear of him." No further record of the case appears.
Joseph Pratt married, 22 July, 1697, Sarah Colyer, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth (Sanford) Collier. In 1700 he disposed of his Hartford land and appears soon after among the first settlers of Colchester, where the birth of his children is recorded. He was made way-warden 29 December, 1703, and granted a meadow. He was made constable 31 December, 1711, and again in 1718; in 1715 he was a grand juryman. In 1719 he was appointed to gather the county rate. A curious entry, quoted under the Beebes, connects him with John Beebe. He was called sergeant in 1700. He was a deputy from Milford to the General Court in 1700. The last entry in the town records concerning him is in 1726. His children were: Joseph, born 1698; Azariah, 1699; Abigail, 1702; Ruth, 16 March, 1705(6); Elisha, 1707; Daniel, 1710; Sarah, 1713. His widow, Sarah, died 20 November, 1730.
Ruth Pratt who was born at Colchester, was married about 1726 to John Beebe. She died in Canaan, New York, 15 September, 1794.1
In volume 3 of the Connecticut Colonial Records, occurs an item, not set down in the index, connecting John Pratt with one of the old world tragedies. William Kelso, "Chirurgeon Generall" in the late Rebellion in Scotland, having escaped from England, to the captain of the ship made declaration of what he knew about the murder of Archbishop Sharp. Accordingly, an order was out for the arrest of Kelso. On the return of the warrant, dated 15 June, 1683, by John Shephard and John Pratt, constables, it was noted that they "cannot find or hear of him." No further record of the case appears.
Joseph Pratt married, 22 July, 1697, Sarah Colyer, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth (Sanford) Collier. In 1700 he disposed of his Hartford land and appears soon after among the first settlers of Colchester, where the birth of his children is recorded. He was made way-warden 29 December, 1703, and granted a meadow. He was made constable 31 December, 1711, and again in 1718; in 1715 he was a grand juryman. In 1719 he was appointed to gather the county rate. A curious entry, quoted under the Beebes, connects him with John Beebe. He was called sergeant in 1700. He was a deputy from Milford to the General Court in 1700. The last entry in the town records concerning him is in 1726. His children were: Joseph, born 1698; Azariah, 1699; Abigail, 1702; Ruth, 16 March, 1705(6); Elisha, 1707; Daniel, 1710; Sarah, 1713. His widow, Sarah, died 20 November, 1730.
Ruth Pratt who was born at Colchester, was married about 1726 to John Beebe. She died in Canaan, New York, 15 September, 1794.1
THE COLLIERS
Joseph Colyer (Collier) was the first of the name in Connecticut, from Salisbury, Massachusetts, says Savage. He was at Pinefield in Hartford in 1668. He was chimney viewer in 1669. He was married to Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Sanford, about 1668. He died 16 November, 1691.
1 There are two Pratt genealogies: The Pratt Family, by the Rev.
F. W. Chapman, Hartford, 1864; Ancestry of John Pratt, by C. B. Whittlesey,
1900.
Joseph Colyer (Collier) was the first of the name in Connecticut, from Salisbury, Massachusetts, says Savage. He was at Pinefield in Hartford in 1668. He was chimney viewer in 1669. He was married to Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Sanford, about 1668. He died 16 November, 1691.
1 There are two Pratt genealogies: The Pratt Family, by the Rev.
F. W. Chapman, Hartford, 1864; Ancestry of John Pratt, by C. B. Whittlesey,
1900.
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The inventory of the estate, taken by John Wilson and Samuel Olcutt, 2 December, 1691, amounted to 820œ. The whole estate passed to the widow during her life, moveables to be for the daughters, lands to the sons; Ensign Sanford and Robert Sanford are recommended as advisers, so Hartford probate records, Manwaring. The children are mentioned: Joseph, age 23; Mary Phelps, age 22; Sara Colyer, age 18; Elizabeth, age 16; Abel, 14; John, 12; Abigail, 9; Susanna, 7; Ann, 4 1/2.
The widow Elizabeth died 1695(6), will probated 16 March, 1695(6), dated 27 December, 1695:
I give unto my son Joseph 5œ and unto my two sons Abell & John all the tackling which belongs to the team to be equally divided between them and to each of them a horse colt. I give unto my daughter Mary Phelps of Simsbury 40 shillings. I do give unto all those of my children who have wrought for me in spinning or otherwise for procuring divers pieces of cloth not now come home from the weavers I say I give unto them all the cloth not now come home equally those that have done most at the work or procuration of it I give more than an equal part as shall be judged convenient by my overseers. I give unto all my children who now live at home all that provision which is now laid out for my family use and not to be divided provided they can agree to live together upon it. I desire the Hon. John Allyn and my bro. Ensign Zachary Sanford and my bro. Robt. to be the overseers. Witness Caleb Stanley jr., Eliz. (X) Goodwin, Eliz. (X) Colier.
Evidently the lands, since her husband's death, had been disposed of; the inventory amounted to 57œ 12s 4d. It seems pretty clear that the Sanfords and Colliers were of East Hartford. It might be noted that the Pitkins and the Allyns and the Olcotts were well known families, Allyn standing high in colony affairs. The daughter, Abigail, married 16 March, 1700(1) Samuel Peck. John chose his uncle Zachary as guardian in 1697; he married in 1705 Elizabeth Humphries. The daughter Sara, who was born about 1673, married Sergeant Joseph Pratt, 22 July, 1697.
The widow Elizabeth died 1695(6), will probated 16 March, 1695(6), dated 27 December, 1695:
I give unto my son Joseph 5œ and unto my two sons Abell & John all the tackling which belongs to the team to be equally divided between them and to each of them a horse colt. I give unto my daughter Mary Phelps of Simsbury 40 shillings. I do give unto all those of my children who have wrought for me in spinning or otherwise for procuring divers pieces of cloth not now come home from the weavers I say I give unto them all the cloth not now come home equally those that have done most at the work or procuration of it I give more than an equal part as shall be judged convenient by my overseers. I give unto all my children who now live at home all that provision which is now laid out for my family use and not to be divided provided they can agree to live together upon it. I desire the Hon. John Allyn and my bro. Ensign Zachary Sanford and my bro. Robt. to be the overseers. Witness Caleb Stanley jr., Eliz. (X) Goodwin, Eliz. (X) Colier.
Evidently the lands, since her husband's death, had been disposed of; the inventory amounted to 57œ 12s 4d. It seems pretty clear that the Sanfords and Colliers were of East Hartford. It might be noted that the Pitkins and the Allyns and the Olcotts were well known families, Allyn standing high in colony affairs. The daughter, Abigail, married 16 March, 1700(1) Samuel Peck. John chose his uncle Zachary as guardian in 1697; he married in 1705 Elizabeth Humphries. The daughter Sara, who was born about 1673, married Sergeant Joseph Pratt, 22 July, 1697.
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Husband's Name
Joseph COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-FW)
Husband's Name
Joseph COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-FW)
Born:Abt 1625Place:Pinefield, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:6 Nov 1691Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Married:1667Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Born:Abt 1625Place:Pinefield, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:6 Nov 1691Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Married:1667Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Father:William COLLIER (AFN:8J0Z-9W) --IncorrectWade C.
Mother:Jane CURTES (AFN:ML08-VG)IncorrectWade C.
Father:William COLLIER (AFN:8J0Z-9W) --IncorrectWade C.
Mother:Jane CURTES (AFN:ML08-VG)IncorrectWade C.
Wife's Name
Elizabeth SANFORD (SANDFORD) (AFN:23S5-2R)
Wife's Name
Elizabeth SANFORD (SANDFORD) (AFN:23S5-2R)
Born:19 Feb 1645Place:Hartford, Hartford, CT
Died:6 Feb 1695Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Buried:31 Dec 1695Place:
Married:1667Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Born:19 Feb 1645Place:Hartford, Hartford, CT
Died:6 Feb 1695Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Buried:31 Dec 1695Place:
Married:1667Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Father:Robert SANFORD SANDFORD (AFN:23S4-LD)
Mother:Anna ADAMS (AFN:8WJP-G3)
Father:Robert SANFORD SANDFORD (AFN:23S4-LD)
Mother:Anna ADAMS (AFN:8WJP-G3)
Children
Children
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FElizabeth COLLINS (AFN:37C2-S4)
1.SexName
FElizabeth COLLINS (AFN:37C2-S4)
Born:1675Place:Hartford, Hartford, CT
Died:7 Dec 1729Place:Lebanon, New London, CT
Born:1675Place:Hartford, Hartford, CT
Died:7 Dec 1729Place:Lebanon, New London, CT
2.SexName
FAnn COLLIER (AFN:RM9R-9Q)
2.SexName
FAnn COLLIER (AFN:RM9R-9Q)
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Died:1684Place:
Born:1684Place:Hartford, Hartford, CT
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3.SexName
FMary COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-G3)
3.SexName
FMary COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-G3)
Born:1669Place:Of, Hatfield, Hampshire, Massachusetts
Died:13 Mar 1697Place:Of, Hatfield, Hampshire, Massachusetts
Born:1669Place:Of, Hatfield, Hampshire, Massachusetts
Died:13 Mar 1697Place:Of, Hatfield, Hampshire, Massachusetts
4.SexName
MJohn COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-LR)
4.SexName
MJohn COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-LR)
Born:1679Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:2 Aug 1730Place:
Born:1679Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:2 Aug 1730Place:
5.SexName
MJoseph (Collyer) COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-7V)
5.SexName
MJoseph (Collyer) COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-7V)
Born:1668Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:25 Sep 1738Place:Hartford, Hartford, CT
Born:1668Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:25 Sep 1738Place:Hartford, Hartford, CT
6.SexName
FAnn COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-N4)
6.SexName
FAnn COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-N4)
Born:14 Aug 1687Place:Of, Hartford, Hartford, Conn.
Christened:14 Aug 1687Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:13 Jul 1758Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Born:14 Aug 1687Place:Of, Hartford, Hartford, Conn.
Christened:14 Aug 1687Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:13 Jul 1758Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
7.SexName
FSarah COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-H8)
7.SexName
FSarah COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-H8)
Born:1673Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:20 Nov 1730Place:Colchester, New London Co., Connecticut
Buried:Place:Colchester, New London, CT
Born:1673Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:20 Nov 1730Place:Colchester, New London Co., Connecticut
Buried:Place:Colchester, New London, CT
8.SexName
FElizabeth COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-JF)
8.SexName
FElizabeth COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-JF)
Born:1675Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:20 Nov 1730Place:
Born:1675Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:20 Nov 1730Place:
9.SexName
MAbel COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-KL)
9.SexName
MAbel COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-KL)
Born:1677Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:1697Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Born:1677Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:1697Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
10.SexName
FAbigail COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-MX)
10.SexName
FAbigail COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-MX)
Born:1682Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:28 Oct 1742Place:Of Hartford, H, Connecticut
Born:1682Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Died:28 Oct 1742Place:Of Hartford, H, Connecticut
11.SexName
FSusannah COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-P9)
11.SexName
FSusannah COLLIER (AFN:8JQQ-P9)
Born:1687Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Born:1687Place:Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
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