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I have discovered a Cliff family publication donated to the NYS Library at Albany. It includes the Dezell, Zimmerman, Grapes, CLIFF and Bergeman/Bergman families. Here are a few of the locations where they lived: West Cowes, England; Oak Orchard Harbor, NY; Lisbon, NY; Kent, NY; Kendall, NY; Manistique, MI, Albion, NY (and other St. Lawrence and Orleans County towns in NY). Any takers?