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I have finally determined that the sister of my great-grandfather, Mary Emma Hill, married John Rogers Cheshire sometime in the 1860s.
I have found no record of the marriage, but the details given in the 1871 and later UK censuses match. Emma Hill was born abt 1843 in Jersey (1851, 1861 censuses), as was Emma Cheshire (1871-1901 censuses).
In 1881, John Cheshire was a copper agent. Francis Hoare Hill, Emma's father, was a copper agent. James Charles Coke of Glamorgan, Wales, the uncle of Emma's sister Ada's husband, controlled the copper trade in Wales. John was from Glamorgan, Wales.
John was born about 1840 (he and Emma got younger with each census) in Swansea. From the 1841 and 1851 censuses, his parents were Jane (born 1806-1811, Swansea, possibly Jane Rogers) and John (born 1806-1811, Almondsbury, Gloucestershire). Both died in West Derby / Liverpool in the 1850s.
His siblings, all older, were Charles, Elizabeth, Emma, Frederick, Francis and Sarah. Not all survived to mature adulthood.
I'm looking for Emma and John's descendants (rather than John's ancestors, since they would not be mine).
Their children were:
Alfred Cheshire - abt 1866
Amy Cheshire - abt 1872
Arthur Cheshire - abt 1868
Charles Rogers Cheshire - abt 1865
Edward Cheshire - abt 1869
Eliza Cheshire - abt 1864
Walter Cheshire - abt 1873
There is some variation in the DOBs from census to census, and a Kate Cheshire, older than the rest, appears only as an adult in a later census. I have considered the possibility that some of the children were John's from a previous marriage.
John died in 1887 in West Derby. Emma and some of the children then moved to Cheshire (aargh). She died in Birkenhead in 1903. By then, at least some of the children were married with children (I haven't tracked 'em all down yet). By 1901 they seemed white-collarish, e.g. an advertising specialist.
I have looked for all of the children, and some grandchildren, at GenesReunited, with no luck. None of the descendants seems to be researching the family.
My interest is in finding someone descended from the Hill children born 1843-1857 mostly in Cornwall and Devon (Emma's birth in Jersey is an anomaly, and I have not determined what her parents were doing there, or when) who knows something about their parentage.
My great-grandfather, born 1851, and his youngest sister, born abt 1856, were baptized Ernest Augustus Hill and Ada Lennox Monck Hill -- but by the mid-1870s they were going by Ernest Augustus Monck and Ada Lennox Monck. (As Ada Hill, she was an actress at the Adelphi Theatre in London before her 1875 marriage as Monck.) It seems that other siblings, all older, did not make the name change.
My question, of course, is whether Frances Hoare Hill was my great-grandfather at all. (He "re"married in 1871, by which time he had another child, Anne Jane Hill, but his first wife, Sarah Emma Bond Hill, was alive at the 1871 census.)
It's an unlikely long shot -- but a great-grandchild of Mary Emma Hill and John Rogers Cheshire might know something!
Even if not, I'd be pleased to meet them, so if anybody knows anything about this batch of Cheshires, I'll be grateful for the info.
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