|Subject:||Re: The Relative Value of the Sources|
|Post Date:||August 21, 2001 at 21:24:52|
|Forum:||Vansickle Family Genealogy Forum|
The characterization of "Historian" vs "Genealogist" is right on the money in this case anyway. While my interest is in all descendants of Ferdinandus Van Sycklin, Mr Gusman is only interested in those few who connect with Luther Eastling..and seems to be content with the 3 names - Cornelius, Catherine, and Maria - from the DAR application. To me, family letters, statements, affadavits, etc should be used as a guide to conduct research(where to look for records), not as proof of anything. Why? Because people make mistakes...even when relating personal memories.
The 1814 vs 1824 date is a complex issue. If I were to publish a book today on this family, I would use the 1814 date, source cited, with a notation that it is likely in error, and why. The 1824 date appears in my FTM file primarily as a response to Gusman's repeated attacks/threats against me for saying that any part of his family's statements/records could possibly be in error. To him, his family doesn't make mistakes....and the oath automatically makes everything true. I am very confident that the 1814 date is in error, and it would be logical that the Notary simply mistook 1814 for 1824, though it is possible that neither date is correct. For this, I would like to see the actual bible entry and answer that question once and for all. Until then, here is what it looks like from the outside looking in:
12 year old Maria meets Luther, a Canadian soldier serving the British, on a trip from Canada to New York Harbor(from a family letter relating the story of how the couple met) and they marry in 1814. They wait 10 years...until 1825...to have their first known child. Think about that...a Canadian soldier serving the British calmly sailing into New York Harbor @ 1814. Mr Gusman quickly dismissed the account as fiction, since it doesn't fit the 1814 date. But what if the date were actually in the 1820s. Cornelius sailing to Long Island to settle his father's estate(Gravesend), taking his adult daughter with him. She meets Luther on the trip and they marry...@ 1824. First child 1825. Suddenly the pieces fit and the tale of how the couple met might also have some truth to it. A marriage record would be nice, but there are other ways to get a feel for when people married. Mr Gusman has a wealth of family information to help guide him. Problem is, he dismisses anything that conflicts with his self imposed rigidity. There is a lot of information available, from both family and outside sources, that he simply ignores.
In looking back, I wish to apologize to all serious researchers for those times that I "lost" my cool. Frustration got the better of me on occassion, and caused me to lose sight the real issues.