Posted By:Peggy Wingfield
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Subject:Re: Samuel Tarver land in colonial Surry county, Va
Post Date:May 30, 2011 at 04:36:53
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Forum:Surry County, VA Genealogy Forum
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Hello David,

First, thank you for your excellent research, dedication to facts and willingness to share in order that others may benefit by your findings - I being one of those.

I would like your thoughts about the following:

Cavaliers and Pioneers V.I, pg 428, col 2 last entry:

(VA) Patent Book 4, p. 101 (595)
25 Sept. 1663
no county designated
Patent to Mr. Richard Buller for 1200 Acs lieing in New Begin Creeke, beg. at the mouth of Doctor's Creeke, (Dr. Thomas Relfe), running up the first mentioned cr., &c, together with a small Island against the mouth of Doctor's Cr.; trans of 24 persons:

Math. Smith; Artick Slatter; Joane Risding; Richard Ward; John Cary; Hester Sarkett; Robt. Mason; James Cranedge; Thomas Horne (or Herne); Robert Marson; Henry Warner; THOMAS TURVOR ; John Mathews; John Pargetor;
Sence Johnson; And. Armstrong; Dorothy Bankes; Tho. Rich; Edward Mosby; Tho. Read; Mary Memorish; Sarah Read; John Tapt; Wm Sacum.

Cav/P, V.I, pg 427, col 1:
(VA) Patent Book 4, p. 92 (590)
25 Sept 1663
No County designated
Patent to: Mr. Thomas Relfe for 750 Acs. on S.W. side Paspetanke Riv., beg. at the mouth of a swamp & running by land of Thomas Keele (Kelley) &c., by Mr. Fortson's marked trees &c.,
Trans of 15 persons:

Jno. Rouse, twice; Tho. Rouse; Steph. Harris; Jno. Shorebury; Kath. Dolbin; Percy Whitty; Ann Maine; Ann Joanes; Mary Baily; Tho. Relfe; Wm Blech; Mary Belsen; JOSEPH ROGERS AND HIS WIFE.

[Note: About 1755, John Tarver, s/o Sam'l Tarver II/Mary Boyce, s/o Thomas Tarver I, married Sarah Rogers, dau of Joseph Rogers/Mary Forgeson.

John Tarver/Sarah Rogers would probably be the grandchildren of Thomas Turvor and Joseph Rogers & wife referenced in the two deeds above. ]

Note in brackets is mine.

It appears to me that this Thomas Turvor going down to New Begin Creeke in 1663 (or before) would supply the answer as to how and when Samuel II Tarver acquired the 200 acres you describe. He apparently had 300 acres for Samuel II conveyed the 100 acres of his own land to George Briggs, the Indian interpretor who aided in the sales of the Nottaway Indian lands to the white settlers.

That George Briggs was s/o Henry Briggs, the Indian interpretor of Surry Co VA, who married the mother of Richard Washington. Henry Briggs also had a grandson named George Briggs, s/o Charles Briggs - the two get confused.

This line of thinking leads into a very sensitive area, so I'll not say more at this time.

Cordially
Peggy