Posted By:Connie Rice
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Subject:Elias Rice b.1810-TN & Mary Judy b.1818 I-in MO / TX
Post Date:December 20, 2003 at 18:53:24
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Forum:Goliad County, TX Genealogy Forum
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I am searching for more information about Elias P Rice b.Feb.2,1810-TN d.Feb.1891-Sarco,Golid Co.TX.
He married Mary Judy b.1818-d.1891 -of Peter's Station,Madison Co.IL. The couple married Nov 30,1839-St.Louis Mo.
She was the daughter of Samuel Judy-b.1773-Basil,Switzerland & Sarah Ann Nix b.1793-NC..
The wifes family all stayed in the Madison Co.IL area for a couple genrations.

*I would LOVE to find out about his siblings and parents. In much latter census, he states that both his mother & father were from VA. (So he could be of Enlish/Welsh/Scot-Irish or even American Indian background)

*This is alos the info I seek most, if Elias and his family were in fact of Native American Heritage,and which tribe if so.
1810-Tennesse-was still mostly Cherokee lands, with many other bands & tribes occupying the area.

*By 1850-when this man &wife are in Texas, 4 of their children will marry into the PERKINS family,who have strong Native American Heritage-so I am hoping someone can help me find the early info about this Elias Rice


*Elias& Mary were recorded on the Green Co.MO -1840-Census
Listed are the children of Elias and Mary . The 1st 4 were all born in Missouri,(John,Elias,Sarah,Martha)while the later ones born in South Texas. (Elizabeth,Rebecca,Robert,Sarah E,Georginana)
According to the 1840-Census their was a young boy of 10/15yr old living with the just married couple of Elias and Mary.
*This 10/15yr old boy could be a son from another marriage of Elais, newphew or much younger sibling)

Name: Rice, Elias
Home in 1840: Unknown Townships, Greene, MO
County: Greene
State: Missouri
Year: 1840
Roll: M704_223
Page: 291
Image: 273
Males-
1-10yr/under 15yr
1-20yr-under 30yr (head of house)
Females-
1-20yr-under 30yr(wife)

Sometime around 1848-this couple travled down South to border of Texas/Oklahoma Territory.

By 1850-they will be found on the Titus Co.TX Cenus
1860-in By 1860 the family had left made thier way down thru Texas, to the area of Corpus Christi. Elias is listed as a laborer.
1860-
ELIAS RICE -TX Refugio County St. Maries (St.Mary's) Precinct 1860 pg.20
20 231 185 Rice Elias 44 M Laborer Ill
20 231 185 Rice Mary 37 F Ill
20 231 185 Rice John 18 M Mo
20 231 185 Rice Elias 16 M Mo
20 231 185 Rice Elizabeth 9 F Tex
20 231 185 Rice Rebecca N. 8 F Tex
20 231 185 Rice Robert 7 M Tex
20 231 185 Rice Sara E. 5 F Tex
http://www.rootsweb.com/~txrefugi/1860stmarys20.htm

1870-this couple had made thier way to Goliad Co.TX
By 1870-Elias and family had made thier way to Goliad Co. Texas
Name: Elias Rice
Age in 1870: 58
Estimated Birth Year: 1811
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1870: Not Stated, Goliad, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View Image
Post Office: Goliad
Roll: M593_1587
Page: 399
Image: 191
Year: 1870


Year: 1880; Census Place: Precinct 2, Goliad, Texas; Roll: T9_1305; Family History Film: 1255305; Page: 352D; Enumeration District: 65; Image: .
Elias RICE
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: <1812>
Birthplace: Tennessee
Occupation: Farmer
Relation: Self
Home in 1880: Precinct 2, Goliad, Texas
Marital status: Married
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Head of household: Elias RICE
Father's birthplace: VA
Mother's birthplace: VA

*This is the 1st Census to indicate that he had darker skin than pure white.This is also the only census to not list him as white. (during this time frame many Native Americans were labled Black,or FPC(Free Person of Color).

It seems that when the family move all the way down to the Corpus Christi area in 1860-that was the largest Texas Cherokee band, just trying to negotiate with the Mexican Gov., before the Battle for the Republic of Texas. It seems this mans migration continues to move away from the Trail of Tears,and even the Native Americans in texas who just wanted to keep their lands,and people with the right to vote,and not be placed on a reservation.

*I have a great deal of research and info I would be happy to share, and would love to discuss any other theories folks may have.

Thanks
Connie Coy Rice
c2rice@sbcglobal.net