Posted By:Viola Spencer
Subject:Re: Samuel Crooks/Eleanor Spencer.
Post Date:November 25, 2007 at 14:06:11
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Forum:Trumbull County, OH Genealogy Forum
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James Pettis, my late husband's great-great grandfather was Richard Spencer who died Dec. 9, 1846 in Vienna, Trumbull Co., Ohio. He is buried in the Brookfield Center Cemetery, Trumbull Co., OH. Neither his grave nor most in the vicinity have grave markers, however, Trumbull Co. Archives gave me copy of graves reg'n card that shows burial was in Lot No. 65, Original Section, Row 11 N, Grave No. 2. The Decorating Committee indicates he served in the War of 1812, but not an Ohio enlistment. I have been unable to secure a service record for him from NARA. We descend from his second son, James. I have found only two sons for him and wife Rachel (Unknown). I have had extensive communication with a Minnesota lady whose e-mail is, who is researching her ancestor Elenor Spencer, wife of Samuel Crossin Crooks. We had thought that a Richard Spencer of Washington and Greene Counties, PA may be our Trumbull County ancestor but I learned only last Tuesday, Nov. 20th, that that man died Dec. 18, 1831, in Morgan Twp., Greene Co., PA. Posting was on

I have not been able to identify him with the Richard Spencer from Upstate New York. My next focus will be on North Central Penna/Northumberland Co. There were Spencers settled there in the late 1700s from Connecticut. That's up the road from Cumberland County where Rachel was born Feb. 28, 1778 or 1783, in Carlisle. No, no marriage record yet. And we don't know how or when they migrated to Trumbull Co., but son Alexander R. was allegedly born in Vienna, Trumbull, OH on July 1, 1813, and James sometime in 1819. Family lore says "no girls in the Richard/James/Ralph/Thurman line until Thurman's daughter in 1912". Alex had 3 girls but no sons. Census records of little help --Ohio's 1810 enumeration lost; no Richard Spencer in Trumbull Co. for 1820 (the man in Guernsey Co. is not ours); enumerated in 1830; no enumeration in 1840.

In our participation in SH&GS Y-Dna project, we match with a man whose earliest proven Spencer ancestor was in Kentucky, but the testing indicates a Genetic Distance of 5, which means our most recent common ancestor could have lived in the 1600s. His e-mail address is

Best of luck in your research. Regards, Viola Spencer